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<p>[QUOTE="LukeGob, post: 24645156, member: 73885"]So, I recently had a 2nd, out of 2, kind-of sketchy experience with the same Auction House, through Biddr but not involving them. The lot in question is in the link below. I placed a winning bid, thinking it was a Barbarous imitation of a pretty rare type issued only at Thessalonica for Valentinian II (& Theo. & Arcadius); RIC IX, Thessalonica 58a for the model. It was described simply as of Val. II with a date struck & mass & Dia., no real specifics beyond that. Certainly nothing claiming it was specifically what I had assumed it was, just that it was of Valentinian II. But, turns out the coin is actually a tooled example of RIC VII, Heraclea 20 for Constantine II, as Caesar, with the obverse legend altered to be Val. II. I feel that that's enough of an error to negate the whole thing.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now, granted, I did NOT figure this out until AFTER the hammer (I took a screen shot of the listing for my own records after winning the lot & while admiring it, it just kind of hit me. Should've figured it out sooner). But still. I wrote them to politely let them know what I think (know) the coin actually is & to ask if they could take a 2nd look & confirm. Seemed better than paying & having it shipped halfway around the world just to have to return it & get my money back, but what do I know.</p><p><br /></p><p>Without getting into specifics & further airing publicly what was private; they were not hearing it & I got the impression that the coin will be re-listed. & I'm banned (kind of like getting fired after you quit). Take a look, see for yourself, avoid my mistake & do not bid if/when it comes back up. </p><p><br /></p><p>Honestly, what's making me really question the whole thing is that I had another issue with the same place the only other time I tried them. Wanted to bid on a cheap coin, checked 'auction terms' for shipping prices, saw a €15 option (along with a €30 option), even wrote & checked that that was accurate as the wording was...not ideal, got confirmation, bid on & won the lot only to find the only shipping option on my invoice was for €40 (Prices are approximate, pretty sure that's the exact amount, but I'm not gonna go check, so, yeah, disclaimer). For a €12 coin. I wrote & asked what to do. Back & forth a bit but they finally said it was a some glitch in the set up for that particular auction & they can't change it. But they'll hold the coin & next time I won something they would add it to that order. Then they promptly sold the coin. I figured "whatever, no worries, they have WAY more important customers than me & my €12 lot to deal with. I've bugged them enough, let it go." But I did figure it probably ought to earn me a few points of...I don't know, something good. Nope; their recollection seems to differ from mine & the email exchange's. Doesn't matter, moving on. </p><p><br /></p><p>I'm not trying to say they're bad or anything like that. I can certainly see this being different through their eyes, especially since my winning lot, both times, was for an amount small enough that I can't really expect them to actually check up on, or do anything about, my issues. I can certainly see how I could be perceived as a minor customer who's now made problems in 2 auctions out of 2 that they'd placed winning bids in. BUT (& it's a BIG but), what I was trying to tell them is important. They aquired, missed a BIG problem with, & sold at least a coin that was deliberately alerted in modern times to make it look like a much rarer & more valuable coin. AND, taking a 2nd look through the other lots in the same auction, I'm seeing more that may have the same, or similar, issue. That's why I'm posting this here, as a warning to other auction participants.</p><p><br /></p><p>I don't know. Auction house & auction number are in the link below (& visible in the text of the link I imagine. N&N London, Auct-XII, if not). If you happen to have won a lot in that auction, maybe take a second look? Has anybody else had issues with this auction house? I don't know what to think. Little annoyed. Easily could all just be a series of honest mistakes, but a lot of little red-flags has me wondering enough to ask what anyone else's experience was like with this place? Good? Bad? Thanks.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.biddr.com/auctions/nnlondon/browse?a=3667&l=4252704" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.biddr.com/auctions/nnlondon/browse?a=3667&l=4252704" rel="nofollow">https://www.biddr.com/auctions/nnlondon/browse?a=3667&l=4252704</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="LukeGob, post: 24645156, member: 73885"]So, I recently had a 2nd, out of 2, kind-of sketchy experience with the same Auction House, through Biddr but not involving them. The lot in question is in the link below. I placed a winning bid, thinking it was a Barbarous imitation of a pretty rare type issued only at Thessalonica for Valentinian II (& Theo. & Arcadius); RIC IX, Thessalonica 58a for the model. It was described simply as of Val. II with a date struck & mass & Dia., no real specifics beyond that. Certainly nothing claiming it was specifically what I had assumed it was, just that it was of Valentinian II. But, turns out the coin is actually a tooled example of RIC VII, Heraclea 20 for Constantine II, as Caesar, with the obverse legend altered to be Val. II. I feel that that's enough of an error to negate the whole thing. Now, granted, I did NOT figure this out until AFTER the hammer (I took a screen shot of the listing for my own records after winning the lot & while admiring it, it just kind of hit me. Should've figured it out sooner). But still. I wrote them to politely let them know what I think (know) the coin actually is & to ask if they could take a 2nd look & confirm. Seemed better than paying & having it shipped halfway around the world just to have to return it & get my money back, but what do I know. Without getting into specifics & further airing publicly what was private; they were not hearing it & I got the impression that the coin will be re-listed. & I'm banned (kind of like getting fired after you quit). Take a look, see for yourself, avoid my mistake & do not bid if/when it comes back up. Honestly, what's making me really question the whole thing is that I had another issue with the same place the only other time I tried them. Wanted to bid on a cheap coin, checked 'auction terms' for shipping prices, saw a €15 option (along with a €30 option), even wrote & checked that that was accurate as the wording was...not ideal, got confirmation, bid on & won the lot only to find the only shipping option on my invoice was for €40 (Prices are approximate, pretty sure that's the exact amount, but I'm not gonna go check, so, yeah, disclaimer). For a €12 coin. I wrote & asked what to do. Back & forth a bit but they finally said it was a some glitch in the set up for that particular auction & they can't change it. But they'll hold the coin & next time I won something they would add it to that order. Then they promptly sold the coin. I figured "whatever, no worries, they have WAY more important customers than me & my €12 lot to deal with. I've bugged them enough, let it go." But I did figure it probably ought to earn me a few points of...I don't know, something good. Nope; their recollection seems to differ from mine & the email exchange's. Doesn't matter, moving on. I'm not trying to say they're bad or anything like that. I can certainly see this being different through their eyes, especially since my winning lot, both times, was for an amount small enough that I can't really expect them to actually check up on, or do anything about, my issues. I can certainly see how I could be perceived as a minor customer who's now made problems in 2 auctions out of 2 that they'd placed winning bids in. BUT (& it's a BIG but), what I was trying to tell them is important. They aquired, missed a BIG problem with, & sold at least a coin that was deliberately alerted in modern times to make it look like a much rarer & more valuable coin. AND, taking a 2nd look through the other lots in the same auction, I'm seeing more that may have the same, or similar, issue. That's why I'm posting this here, as a warning to other auction participants. I don't know. Auction house & auction number are in the link below (& visible in the text of the link I imagine. N&N London, Auct-XII, if not). If you happen to have won a lot in that auction, maybe take a second look? Has anybody else had issues with this auction house? I don't know what to think. Little annoyed. Easily could all just be a series of honest mistakes, but a lot of little red-flags has me wondering enough to ask what anyone else's experience was like with this place? Good? Bad? Thanks. [URL]https://www.biddr.com/auctions/nnlondon/browse?a=3667&l=4252704[/URL][/QUOTE]
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