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<p>[QUOTE="Clinker, post: 1248454, member: 6229"]<font face="arial"><font size="4">Besides <b><i>Patagon </i></b>the <b><i>Albertusthaler</i></b> was called by another denomination during France's annexation of the Southern Netherlands. You remember one of the obverse designs was of a "golden fleece."</font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"> </font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4">The French held high regard for the mythical "golden fleece" believing it to be a symbol of good luck and referred to the coin as <b><i>Toison d'or </i></b>which translates to "golden fleece." From the first day of the French Netherlands (<i>French</i>: <i>Pays-Bas méridionaux</i>) the <b><i>Toison d'or</i></b> (Patagon) was composed of silver. Here are photos of some coins courtesy of Coin Archives:</font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"> </font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"> </font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4">Note: The photos are of silver <b><i>Toison d'or </i></b>coins minted during the reign of Philippe IV (1621-1665):</font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"> </font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"> </font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><a href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1020500&AucID=937&Lot=967&Val=7b06fe34bf7d9ce7553ada82faa00b0c" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1020500&AucID=937&Lot=967&Val=7b06fe34bf7d9ce7553ada82faa00b0c" rel="nofollow"><u><font size="4"><span style="color: #0000ff"><font size="4"><span style="color: #0000ff">http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1020500&AucID=937&Lot=967&Val=7b06fe34bf7d9ce7553ada82faa00b0c</span></font></span></font></u></a></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"></font><a href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=990855&AucID=921&Lot=909&Val=a1186bec45d1d7821aed110ab49d978a" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=990855&AucID=921&Lot=909&Val=a1186bec45d1d7821aed110ab49d978a" rel="nofollow"><u><font size="4"><span style="color: #0000ff"><font size="4"><span style="color: #0000ff">http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=990855&AucID=921&Lot=909&Val=a1186bec45d1d7821aed110ab49d978a</span></font></span></font></u></a></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"></font><a href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=988306&AucID=918&Lot=918&Val=51e60885e77f2894b6cc75a99f4b06d0" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=988306&AucID=918&Lot=918&Val=51e60885e77f2894b6cc75a99f4b06d0" rel="nofollow"><u><font size="4"><span style="color: #0000ff"><font size="4"><span style="color: #0000ff">http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=988306&AucID=918&Lot=918&Val=51e60885e77f2894b6cc75a99f4b06d0</span></font></span></font></u></a></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4">Some coins referred to as <b><i>Toison d'or</i></b> during the era of <i>Pays-Bas méridionaux</i> were composed of bronze as are the following (Coin Archive photos):</font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"></font><a href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=990016&AucID=919&Lot=2817&Val=8aff5462c5dea9d2d43de656a2c0c5b7" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=990016&AucID=919&Lot=2817&Val=8aff5462c5dea9d2d43de656a2c0c5b7" rel="nofollow"><u><font size="4"><span style="color: #0000ff"><font size="4"><span style="color: #0000ff">http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=990016&AucID=919&Lot=2817&Val=8aff5462c5dea9d2d43de656a2c0c5b7</span></font></span></font></u></a></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"></font><a href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=990035&AucID=919&Lot=2836&Val=fabfd22e2563c55e062627dd4478a1ec" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=990035&AucID=919&Lot=2836&Val=fabfd22e2563c55e062627dd4478a1ec" rel="nofollow"><u><font size="4"><span style="color: #0000ff"><font size="4"><span style="color: #0000ff">http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=990035&AucID=919&Lot=2836&Val=fabfd22e2563c55e062627dd4478a1ec</span></font></span></font></u></a></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"></font><a href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=990051&AucID=919&Lot=2852&Val=879ea8631c875c737da674591cfe941d" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=990051&AucID=919&Lot=2852&Val=879ea8631c875c737da674591cfe941d" rel="nofollow"><u><font size="4"><span style="color: #0000ff"><font size="4"><span style="color: #0000ff">http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=990051&AucID=919&Lot=2852&Val=879ea8631c875c737da674591cfe941d</span></font></span></font></u></a></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4">Gold <b><i>toison d'or</i></b> coins were, also, produced. While trying to find photos of gold <b><i>Toison d'or </i></b>coins I found something pertaining to "golden fleece." What I discovered shows a relationship to "Jason and the Argonauts" quest for the "golden fleece."</font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4">The discovery may have led to the mythical story of the "Golden Fleece" being the hide of a golden-haired Ram:</font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4">Back in ancient times (14th and 15th Centuries B.C.) the Tolkos and Colchis areas of modern day Georgia litteraly teemed with gold producing rivers flowing from the Caucasus Mountains to the Black Sea. To reap this treasure, the people of the area rediscovered the prehistorical use of goat skins as collective devices. The goat skins acted as sieves, proved very durable and could be used many times. After an hour of being stretched between two stakes, or simply held by one's hands in the flowing waters, the goat skins would be gathered up, replaced and carried home to be plucked of their precious cargo (gold flakes and small nuggets). Voila! "Golden Fleece!"</font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4">Hope you enjoyed this article...</font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4">Clinker</font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"></font></font></font>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Clinker, post: 1248454, member: 6229"][FONT=arial][SIZE=4]Besides [B][I]Patagon [/I][/B][I][/I]the [B][I]Albertusthaler[/I][/B][I][/I] was called by another denomination during France's annexation of the Southern Netherlands. You remember one of the obverse designs was of a "golden fleece." The French held high regard for the mythical "golden fleece" believing it to be a symbol of good luck and referred to the coin as [B][I]Toison d'or [/I][/B][I][/I]which translates to "golden fleece." From the first day of the French Netherlands ([I]French[/I]: [I]Pays-Bas méridionaux[/I]) the [B][I]Toison d'or[/I][/B][I][/I] (Patagon) was composed of silver. Here are photos of some coins courtesy of Coin Archives: Note: The photos are of silver [B][I]Toison d'or [/I][/B][I][/I]coins minted during the reign of Philippe IV (1621-1665): [URL="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1020500&AucID=937&Lot=967&Val=7b06fe34bf7d9ce7553ada82faa00b0c"][U][SIZE=4][COLOR=#0000ff][SIZE=4][COLOR=#0000ff]http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1020500&AucID=937&Lot=967&Val=7b06fe34bf7d9ce7553ada82faa00b0c[/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE][/U][SIZE=4][COLOR=#0000ff][SIZE=4][COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE][/URL] [SIZE=4] [/SIZE][URL="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=990855&AucID=921&Lot=909&Val=a1186bec45d1d7821aed110ab49d978a"][U][SIZE=4][COLOR=#0000ff][SIZE=4][COLOR=#0000ff]http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=990855&AucID=921&Lot=909&Val=a1186bec45d1d7821aed110ab49d978a[/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE][/U][SIZE=4][COLOR=#0000ff][SIZE=4][COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE][/URL] [SIZE=4] [/SIZE][URL="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=988306&AucID=918&Lot=918&Val=51e60885e77f2894b6cc75a99f4b06d0"][U][SIZE=4][COLOR=#0000ff][SIZE=4][COLOR=#0000ff]http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=988306&AucID=918&Lot=918&Val=51e60885e77f2894b6cc75a99f4b06d0[/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE][/U][SIZE=4][COLOR=#0000ff][SIZE=4][COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE][/URL] [SIZE=4] Some coins referred to as [B][I]Toison d'or[/I][/B][I][/I] during the era of [I]Pays-Bas méridionaux[/I] were composed of bronze as are the following (Coin Archive photos): [/SIZE][URL="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=990016&AucID=919&Lot=2817&Val=8aff5462c5dea9d2d43de656a2c0c5b7"][U][SIZE=4][COLOR=#0000ff][SIZE=4][COLOR=#0000ff]http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=990016&AucID=919&Lot=2817&Val=8aff5462c5dea9d2d43de656a2c0c5b7[/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE][/U][SIZE=4][COLOR=#0000ff][SIZE=4][COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE][/URL] [SIZE=4] [/SIZE][URL="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=990035&AucID=919&Lot=2836&Val=fabfd22e2563c55e062627dd4478a1ec"][U][SIZE=4][COLOR=#0000ff][SIZE=4][COLOR=#0000ff]http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=990035&AucID=919&Lot=2836&Val=fabfd22e2563c55e062627dd4478a1ec[/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE][/U][SIZE=4][COLOR=#0000ff][SIZE=4][COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE][/URL] [SIZE=4] [/SIZE][URL="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=990051&AucID=919&Lot=2852&Val=879ea8631c875c737da674591cfe941d"][U][SIZE=4][COLOR=#0000ff][SIZE=4][COLOR=#0000ff]http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=990051&AucID=919&Lot=2852&Val=879ea8631c875c737da674591cfe941d[/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE][/U][SIZE=4][COLOR=#0000ff][SIZE=4][COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE][/URL] [SIZE=4] Gold [B][I]toison d'or[/I][/B][I][/I] coins were, also, produced. While trying to find photos of gold [B][I]Toison d'or [/I][/B][I][/I]coins I found something pertaining to "golden fleece." What I discovered shows a relationship to "Jason and the Argonauts" quest for the "golden fleece." The discovery may have led to the mythical story of the "Golden Fleece" being the hide of a golden-haired Ram: Back in ancient times (14th and 15th Centuries B.C.) the Tolkos and Colchis areas of modern day Georgia litteraly teemed with gold producing rivers flowing from the Caucasus Mountains to the Black Sea. To reap this treasure, the people of the area rediscovered the prehistorical use of goat skins as collective devices. The goat skins acted as sieves, proved very durable and could be used many times. After an hour of being stretched between two stakes, or simply held by one's hands in the flowing waters, the goat skins would be gathered up, replaced and carried home to be plucked of their precious cargo (gold flakes and small nuggets). Voila! "Golden Fleece!" Hope you enjoyed this article... Clinker [/SIZE][/SIZE][/FONT][/QUOTE]
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