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<p>[QUOTE="Clinker, post: 1253198, member: 6229"]<font face="arial"><font size="4">During much of this year we've been seeking info and photos of the Thaler Coinage of the German States (all 1,800 of them). Have you ever wondered about the <b><i>When, Why, and Where</i></b> of the <u>first Thaler </u>coin that was minted?</font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font face="Times New Roman"></font><b><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="6"><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="6"> </font></font></font></font></b></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><b><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="6"><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="6">Silver <i>Joachimsthaler</i> of Stephen, count of Schlik</font></font></font></font></b></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><b><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="6"><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="6"></font></font></font></font></b><font size="4"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4">Bohemia, AD 1520s</font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4">The original Thaler</font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4">The supply of silver within Europe expanded in the late fifteenth century (1400s), from mines in Saxony, Bohemia and Tyrol. The mining states replaced their gold coins (<i>gulden</i> or <i>ducats</i> weighing about 3.5g) with large silver ones of the same face value, weighing about 30g. They were called <i>guldiners</i> or <i>guldengroschen</i> from their origin as equivalents to gold coins.</font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"><br /></font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"><br /></font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4">The most productive mines were Schwaz in Tyrol and Schneeburg in Saxony, which became active from the 1460s. In the early sixteenth century they were joined by Annaberg in Saxony, and St Joachimsthal (modern Jachymov) in Bohemia. St Joachimsthal was hugely productive, and gave this type of coin a new name: <i>Joachimsthaler guldengroschen</i>. Because this coin's name, introduced by Stephen, count of Schlik (about 1519-30), who owned St Joachimsthal in 1519 was such a mouthful to pronounce lt became known simply as <b><i>Thaler</i></b>.</font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4">By the way, St Joachim was the father of the Virgin Mary and he is featured on the obverse of the coin while the lion that was part of the Count''s crest is featured on the reverse. </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4">Here'a photo of one of those <u>first Thaler</u> coins:</font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"></font><a href="http://www.britishmuseum.org/explore/highlights/highlight_image.aspx?image=k146418.jpg&retpage=17531" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.britishmuseum.org/explore/highlights/highlight_image.aspx?image=k146418.jpg&retpage=17531" rel="nofollow"><u><font size="4"><span style="color: #0000ff"><font size="4"><span style="color: #0000ff">http://www.britishmuseum.org/explore/highlights/highlight_image.aspx?image=k146418.jpg&retpage=17531</span></font></span></font></u></a></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4">Hope you enjoyed seeing this <u>first Thaler</u>...</font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"> </font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4">Clinker</font></font></font></p><p><font face="arial"><font size="4"><font size="4"></font></font></font>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Clinker, post: 1253198, member: 6229"][FONT=arial][SIZE=4]During much of this year we've been seeking info and photos of the Thaler Coinage of the German States (all 1,800 of them). Have you ever wondered about the [B][I]When, Why, and Where[/I][/B] of the [U]first Thaler [/U]coin that was minted? [FONT=Times New Roman] [/FONT][B][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=6][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=6] Silver [I]Joachimsthaler[/I] of Stephen, count of Schlik [/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][SIZE=4] Bohemia, AD 1520s The original Thaler The supply of silver within Europe expanded in the late fifteenth century (1400s), from mines in Saxony, Bohemia and Tyrol. The mining states replaced their gold coins ([I]gulden[/I] or [I]ducats[/I] weighing about 3.5g) with large silver ones of the same face value, weighing about 30g. They were called [I]guldiners[/I] or [I]guldengroschen[/I] from their origin as equivalents to gold coins. The most productive mines were Schwaz in Tyrol and Schneeburg in Saxony, which became active from the 1460s. In the early sixteenth century they were joined by Annaberg in Saxony, and St Joachimsthal (modern Jachymov) in Bohemia. St Joachimsthal was hugely productive, and gave this type of coin a new name: [I]Joachimsthaler guldengroschen[/I]. Because this coin's name, introduced by Stephen, count of Schlik (about 1519-30), who owned St Joachimsthal in 1519 was such a mouthful to pronounce lt became known simply as [B][I]Thaler[/I][/B]. By the way, St Joachim was the father of the Virgin Mary and he is featured on the obverse of the coin while the lion that was part of the Count''s crest is featured on the reverse. Here'a photo of one of those [U]first Thaler[/U] coins: [/SIZE][URL="http://www.britishmuseum.org/explore/highlights/highlight_image.aspx?image=k146418.jpg&retpage=17531"][U][SIZE=4][COLOR=#0000ff][SIZE=4][COLOR=#0000ff]http://www.britishmuseum.org/explore/highlights/highlight_image.aspx?image=k146418.jpg&retpage=17531[/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE][/U][/URL] [SIZE=4] Hope you enjoyed seeing this [U]first Thaler[/U]... Clinker [/SIZE][/SIZE][/FONT][/QUOTE]
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