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<p>[QUOTE="Clinker, post: 300465, member: 6229"]What the heck is a "privy mark"?</p><p> </p><p>You know what a mintmark is. A "privy mark" is similar. It is a small mark or design identifying the mint, moneyer, or some other aspect of the coin's reason for being struck. This is especially true of coins minted before 1901. Since 1901 it's main use is a marketing feature.</p><p> </p><p>Some "privy marks" are very hard to distinguish while others are "works of art" (some better than the coin they're struck on). </p><p> </p><p>Here's (what many historians agree) is one of the first coins to carry a "privy mark." (image courtesy CoinArchives)</p><p> </p><p><font face="Arial">Sasanian Kings of Persia, Shapur I (240-270), Drachm 4.0g, crowned head of king right, earflaps, reverse fire altar and attendants, "privy mark" is a pellet above left. </font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"><a href="http://imagedb/coinarchives.com/img/baldwin/037/00806q00.jpg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://imagedb/coinarchives.com/img/baldwin/037/00806q00.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://imagedb/coinarchives.com/img/baldwin/037/00806q00.jpg</a></font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial">That's about as simple as it gets. This next one is about as ornate as it gets.</font></p><p><font face="Arial">Later I'll show you more of both. </font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"><a href="http://www.cruzis-coins.com/Kookas/2000.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.cruzis-coins.com/Kookas/2000.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cruzis-coins.com/Kookas/2000.html</a></font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial">Ah! Those Australian minters!</font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial">Here's an Algerian 5 Dinars with 2 privy marks. Read the info and see what/who they represent.</font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"><a href="http://www.wbcc.fsnet.co.uk/af-alg.htm" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.wbcc.fsnet.co.uk/af-alg.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.wbcc.fsnet.co.uk/af-alg.htm</a></font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial">Canada has been producing maple leaf "privy marks" for years, here's a 2001 $20 Gold Maple Leaf w./Viking Longboat on it. Be sure to scroll down so you can see a magnified picture of the "privy mark."</font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"><a href="http://www.taxfreegold.co.uk/2001maplesetsspecialuncirculatedviking.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.taxfreegold.co.uk/2001maplesetsspecialuncirculatedviking.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.taxfreegold.co.uk/2001maplesetsspecialuncirculatedviking.html</a></font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial">This next example of a "privy mark" may be a nice surprise to you.It is a <b><i>special</i></b> trade token. It's issued by and struck for the University of Saint Hildegard. The mint master who produced <i>the middle ages looking token </i>is His Lordship Ian Cnulle, Guildmaster of the Monier's Mint of An Tir. Made in the spring of </font><font face="Times New Roman">1994,</font><font face="Arial"> it is entirely punchwork and in low relief. Its inscription includes the </font><font face="Times New Roman">"V.V."</font><font face="Arial"> mintmark (for "vicus ventosus" = Latin for "windy town" or "Windwic" - the University of St. Hildegard is located in Klickitat County in south central Washington State, an area known within the SCA as the Shire of Windwic), plus the I-C monogram of Ian Cnulle, who made the dies. The outward orientation of the mint and privy marks indicate that the inscription begins to the left of bottom center.</font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial">Photos courtesy of saydo.org:</font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"><a href="http://www.saydo.org/pastlane/token10.htm" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.saydo.org/pastlane/token10.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.saydo.org/pastlane/token10.htm</a></font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial">In 2006 the Isle of MAN contracted with Pobjoy Mint to place a <b><i>special</i></b> "privy mark" on a Gold Angel featuring a Christmas theme on its reverse. Courtesy of Pobjoy Mint here's a photo of that coin and the <b><i>three french hens</i></b> "privy mark."</font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"><a href="http://www.pobjoy.com/ukworld/shopimages/sections/thumbnails/xmas_angel_779x521.jpg/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.pobjoy.com/ukworld/shopimages/sections/thumbnails/xmas_angel_779x521.jpg/" rel="nofollow">http://www.pobjoy.com/ukworld/shopimages/sections/thumbnails/xmas_angel_779x521.jpg/</a></font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial">This United Kingdom Gold 2 Guineas dated 1664 has a decent (for the era) "privy mark. You'll find it on the "exergue" beneath the bust of Charles II on the obverse.</font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"><a href="http://imagedb.coinarchives.com/img/kunker/129/00119q00.jpg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://imagedb.coinarchives.com/img/kunker/129/00119q00.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://imagedb.coinarchives.com/img/kunker/129/00119q00.jpg</a></font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial">Now, as to artistic detail, don't you agree the <b><i>Titanic </i></b>"privy mark" on this Canadian $5 silver Maple Leaf is warranted as <b><i>terrific</i></b>?</font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"><a href="http://lynncoins.com/1998titanicmapleleaf388px.jpg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://lynncoins.com/1998titanicmapleleaf388px.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://lynncoins.com/1998titanicmapleleaf388px.jpg</a></font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial">And how about this Canadian silver $5 Maple Leaf and its <b><i>year of the pig</i></b> "privy mark"?</font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"><a href="http://image.zenn.net/REPLACE/CLIENT/1000057/1000191/image/jpeg/privypiglrg0001.JPG" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://image.zenn.net/REPLACE/CLIENT/1000057/1000191/image/jpeg/privypiglrg0001.JPG" rel="nofollow">http://image.zenn.net/REPLACE/CLIENT/1000057/1000191/image/jpeg/privypiglrg0001.JPG</a></font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial">As to how crude some of the Paris Mint's "privy marks" can be look at this example:</font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"><a href="http://www.geocities.com/ngazidja/coins/ali5rev.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.geocities.com/ngazidja/coins/ali5rev.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.geocities.com/ngazidja/coins/ali5rev.html</a></font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial">Nopw let's look at some Australia silver 2 ounce Kookaburros This is a 2003 <b><i>Boer War </i></b>commemorative:</font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"><a href="http://www.coinpage.com/large.php?tImageId=1475" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coinpage.com/large.php?tImageId=1475" rel="nofollow">http://www.coinpage.com/large.php?tImageId=1475</a></font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial">And this is the Korean War Commrm.:</font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"><a href="http://www.coinpage.com/large.php?tImageId=1476" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coinpage.com/large.php?tImageId=1476" rel="nofollow">http://www.coinpage.com/large.php?tImageId=1476</a></font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial">Viet Nam War:</font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"><a href="http://www.coinpage.com/large.php?tImageId=1477" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coinpage.com/large.php?tImageId=1477" rel="nofollow">http://www.coinpage.com/large.php?tImageId=1477</a></font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial">What about WWI and WWII? YES!:</font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"><b><u>WWI:</u></b></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><b><u> </u></b></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><b><u> </u></b></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><b><u></u></b><a href="http://www.coinpage.com/large.php?tImageId=1478" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coinpage.com/large.php?tImageId=1478" rel="nofollow">http://www.coinpage.com/large.php?tImageId=1478</a></font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"><b><u>WWII:</u></b></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><b><u><br /></u></b> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"><a href="http://www.coinpage.com/large.php?tImageId=1479" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coinpage.com/large.php?tImageId=1479" rel="nofollow">http://www.coinpage.com/large.php?tImageId=1479</a></font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial">Did you enjoy this article?</font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial">Clinker</font></p><p><font face="Arial"> </font></p><p><font face="Arial"></font>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Clinker, post: 300465, member: 6229"]What the heck is a "privy mark"? You know what a mintmark is. A "privy mark" is similar. It is a small mark or design identifying the mint, moneyer, or some other aspect of the coin's reason for being struck. This is especially true of coins minted before 1901. Since 1901 it's main use is a marketing feature. Some "privy marks" are very hard to distinguish while others are "works of art" (some better than the coin they're struck on). Here's (what many historians agree) is one of the first coins to carry a "privy mark." (image courtesy CoinArchives) [FONT=Arial]Sasanian Kings of Persia, Shapur I (240-270), Drachm 4.0g, crowned head of king right, earflaps, reverse fire altar and attendants, "privy mark" is a pellet above left. [URL]http://imagedb/coinarchives.com/img/baldwin/037/00806q00.jpg[/URL] That's about as simple as it gets. This next one is about as ornate as it gets. Later I'll show you more of both. [URL]http://www.cruzis-coins.com/Kookas/2000.html[/URL] Ah! Those Australian minters! Here's an Algerian 5 Dinars with 2 privy marks. Read the info and see what/who they represent. [URL]http://www.wbcc.fsnet.co.uk/af-alg.htm[/URL] Canada has been producing maple leaf "privy marks" for years, here's a 2001 $20 Gold Maple Leaf w./Viking Longboat on it. Be sure to scroll down so you can see a magnified picture of the "privy mark." [URL]http://www.taxfreegold.co.uk/2001maplesetsspecialuncirculatedviking.html[/URL] This next example of a "privy mark" may be a nice surprise to you.It is a [B][I]special[/I][/B][I][/I] trade token. It's issued by and struck for the University of Saint Hildegard. The mint master who produced [I]the middle ages looking token [/I]is His Lordship Ian Cnulle, Guildmaster of the Monier's Mint of An Tir. Made in the spring of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman]1994,[/FONT][FONT=Arial] it is entirely punchwork and in low relief. Its inscription includes the [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman]"V.V."[/FONT][FONT=Arial] mintmark (for "vicus ventosus" = Latin for "windy town" or "Windwic" - the University of St. Hildegard is located in Klickitat County in south central Washington State, an area known within the SCA as the Shire of Windwic), plus the I-C monogram of Ian Cnulle, who made the dies. The outward orientation of the mint and privy marks indicate that the inscription begins to the left of bottom center. Photos courtesy of saydo.org: [URL]http://www.saydo.org/pastlane/token10.htm[/URL] In 2006 the Isle of MAN contracted with Pobjoy Mint to place a [B][I]special[/I][/B][I][/I] "privy mark" on a Gold Angel featuring a Christmas theme on its reverse. Courtesy of Pobjoy Mint here's a photo of that coin and the [B][I]three french hens[/I][/B][I][/I] "privy mark." [URL]http://www.pobjoy.com/ukworld/shopimages/sections/thumbnails/xmas_angel_779x521.jpg/[/URL] This United Kingdom Gold 2 Guineas dated 1664 has a decent (for the era) "privy mark. You'll find it on the "exergue" beneath the bust of Charles II on the obverse. [URL]http://imagedb.coinarchives.com/img/kunker/129/00119q00.jpg[/URL] Now, as to artistic detail, don't you agree the [B][I]Titanic [/I][/B][I][/I]"privy mark" on this Canadian $5 silver Maple Leaf is warranted as [B][I]terrific[/I][/B][I][/I]? [URL]http://lynncoins.com/1998titanicmapleleaf388px.jpg[/URL] And how about this Canadian silver $5 Maple Leaf and its [B][I]year of the pig[/I][/B][I][/I] "privy mark"? [URL]http://image.zenn.net/REPLACE/CLIENT/1000057/1000191/image/jpeg/privypiglrg0001.JPG[/URL] As to how crude some of the Paris Mint's "privy marks" can be look at this example: [URL]http://www.geocities.com/ngazidja/coins/ali5rev.html[/URL] Nopw let's look at some Australia silver 2 ounce Kookaburros This is a 2003 [B][I]Boer War [/I][/B][I][/I]commemorative: [URL]http://www.coinpage.com/large.php?tImageId=1475[/URL] And this is the Korean War Commrm.: [URL]http://www.coinpage.com/large.php?tImageId=1476[/URL] Viet Nam War: [URL]http://www.coinpage.com/large.php?tImageId=1477[/URL] What about WWI and WWII? YES!: [B][U]WWI: [/U][/B][U][/U][URL]http://www.coinpage.com/large.php?tImageId=1478[/URL] [B][U]WWII: [/U][/B][U][/U] [URL]http://www.coinpage.com/large.php?tImageId=1479[/URL] Did you enjoy this article? Clinker [/FONT][/QUOTE]
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