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Message:: [QUOTE="Clinker, post: 1258084, member: 6229"]If we look up Denero in dictionaries and encyclopedias we are told:　wiki.answers.com reads: "Denero means Money and is usually preceded by the word more or much."　en.wikipedia.org reads: "The dinero was the currency of the Christian states of Spain from the 11th century. It was copied from the French Denier and served in turn as the model for the Portugese dinheiro." 　　treasuresrealm.com states: "The dinero was the currency of the Christian states of Spain from the 11th century. It was copied from the French Denier and served in turn as the model for the Portugese Donheiro."　　As for the French Denier, Treasure Realm tells us "Deniers - [France, Haiti, Switzerland-Cantons] the various coins issued in French-speaking regions, especially a coin of France, originally of silver but later of copper, introduced in the 8th century and continued until 1794."{From Late Middle English from Old French from Latin denarius denarius}[France, French States, Swiss Cantons]Denier Tournois - [France, French States, Monaco]"　　Further research indicates that Denero coinage has its roots in the Roman (Latin: Denarius) as well as do the denominations of 1. Hungary, Poland and Transylvania (Denar)2. Italian States, Lithuania and the Swiss Cantons (Denari)　　Still more research explains:"The independent states into which Italy was then divided were quick to adopt this silver coin, and it played a leading role in the numismatic history of the region until the thirteenth century. In spite of the introduction of the heavier silver grosso around 1200 and the resumption of gold coinage after 1250, the denaro long remained an important supplementary coin. The early type denaro was first minted in Benventum, and the obverse, following French custom, uses the duke's monogram as the central type. The reverse shows the influence of the Byzantine Empire that once controlled the area: it carries a cross on steps, a standard type on Byzantine gold and silver coinage. This first type of denaro had a diameter of 17 millimeters, and weighed 1.26 grams. Later coins were somewhat lighter and, in many instances, contained less silver. Designs continued to be quite simple as there was little room for devices on a denaro."　　Here's a photo courtesy of treasurerealm.com"　　Italian States, Milan: -- : Denaro (Silver) 1039-1125:　　<a href="http://www.treasurerealm.com/coinpapers/countrycoins/coins/I/italy01.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.treasurerealm.com/coinpapers/countrycoins/coins/I/italy01.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.treasurerealm.com/coinpapers/countrycoins/coins/I/italy01.html</a>　　Folllowing coin photos courtesy of Coin Archives unless noted otherwise.　　Italian States, Siena : - : Denero (silver) 1390:　　<a href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1012756&AucID=934&Lot=372&Val=edf66c2f0139b3e2a2fd02612d6e1f0d" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1012756&AucID=934&Lot=372&Val=edf66c2f0139b3e2a2fd02612d6e1f0d" rel="nofollow">http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1012756&AucID=934&Lot=372&Val=edf66c2f0139b3e2a2fd02612d6e1f0d</a>　　Italian States, Aquileja: - : Denero (silver) 1204-1218:　　<a href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1029582&AucID=947&Lot=1887&Val=5aad7e5b9377356954557bf8360a85e3" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1029582&AucID=947&Lot=1887&Val=5aad7e5b9377356954557bf8360a85e3" rel="nofollow">http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1029582&AucID=947&Lot=1887&Val=5aad7e5b9377356954557bf8360a85e3</a>　　Italian States, Aquileja: - : Denero (silver) 1218-1251:　　<a href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1033727&AucID=953&Lot=1423&Val=134abe1e4f5db1247d94dac0d71d1038" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1033727&AucID=953&Lot=1423&Val=134abe1e4f5db1247d94dac0d71d1038" rel="nofollow">http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1033727&AucID=953&Lot=1423&Val=134abe1e4f5db1247d94dac0d71d1038</a>　　Italian States, Trieste: - : Denero (silver) 1204-1218:　　<a href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1029621&AucID=947&Lot=1926&Val=4fb6df22febba53dac5a1a4dd0688847" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1029621&AucID=947&Lot=1926&Val=4fb6df22febba53dac5a1a4dd0688847" rel="nofollow">http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1029621&AucID=947&Lot=1926&Val=4fb6df22febba53dac5a1a4dd0688847</a>　　Iralian States, Venezia: - : Denero (silver) 814-849:　　<a href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=982187&AucID=914&Lot=524&Val=9507149965291ca66f0e80d0de208421" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=982187&AucID=914&Lot=524&Val=9507149965291ca66f0e80d0de208421" rel="nofollow">http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=982187&AucID=914&Lot=524&Val=9507149965291ca66f0e80d0de208421</a>　　Italian States, Sicily (Sizilien): - : Denero (silver)1197-1250:　　<a href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1034334&AucID=954&Lot=2205&Val=40428573229c96dcddafe4c965e01af0" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1034334&AucID=954&Lot=2205&Val=40428573229c96dcddafe4c965e01af0" rel="nofollow">http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1034334&AucID=954&Lot=2205&Val=40428573229c96dcddafe4c965e01af0</a>　　Italian States, Naples (Neapel): - : Denero (silver)1285-1309:　　<a href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1034325&AucID=954&Lot=2196&Val=faa313e63a43bd707904ca37556fb234" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1034325&AucID=954&Lot=2196&Val=faa313e63a43bd707904ca37556fb234" rel="nofollow">http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1034325&AucID=954&Lot=2196&Val=faa313e63a43bd707904ca37556fb234</a>　　Italian States, Casa Savoia: - : Denero (silver) 1103-1148:　　<a href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1036654&AucID=955&Lot=1022&Val=dcb9233490740bcdef484e1abca72a7d" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1036654&AucID=955&Lot=1022&Val=dcb9233490740bcdef484e1abca72a7d" rel="nofollow">http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1036654&AucID=955&Lot=1022&Val=dcb9233490740bcdef484e1abca72a7d</a>　　Italian States, Marche (Ancona): - : Denaro (silver):　　<a href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1036657&AucID=955&Lot=1025&Val=48245f0281a5758fff4d51af71311186" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1036657&AucID=955&Lot=1025&Val=48245f0281a5758fff4d51af71311186" rel="nofollow">http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1036657&AucID=955&Lot=1025&Val=48245f0281a5758fff4d51af71311186</a>　　Italian States, Brescia (Lombardia): - : Denaro (silver) 1186-1254:　　<a href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1036659&AucID=955&Lot=1027&Val=7b0fb7dfc51c48470cc71b6c757ec02b" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1036659&AucID=955&Lot=1027&Val=7b0fb7dfc51c48470cc71b6c757ec02b" rel="nofollow">http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1036659&AucID=955&Lot=1027&Val=7b0fb7dfc51c48470cc71b6c757ec02b</a>　　You understand, but lest you think all Denaro coins were of a single amount, take a look at this next photo:　　Italian States, Milan (Milano): - : 5 Denaro (silver) 1604:　　<a href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1029592&AucID=947&Lot=1897&Val=f8a4f36aa5b9e8d743153abb2d0954db" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1029592&AucID=947&Lot=1897&Val=f8a4f36aa5b9e8d743153abb2d0954db" rel="nofollow">http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1029592&AucID=947&Lot=1897&Val=f8a4f36aa5b9e8d743153abb2d0954db</a>　　Here's 3 bonus photos for reading this post: 　　Italian States, Genoa: - : Grosso (silver) 1528-1797:　　<a href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1029587&AucID=947&Lot=1892&Val=dbfb80fd3b60a021fae94157a4242b0c" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1029587&AucID=947&Lot=1892&Val=dbfb80fd3b60a021fae94157a4242b0c" rel="nofollow">http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1029587&AucID=947&Lot=1892&Val=dbfb80fd3b60a021fae94157a4242b0c</a>　　Italian States, Milano: - : Grosso (silver) 1500-1512:　　<a href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1029590&AucID=947&Lot=1895&Val=3a19dadafc24a2a8da8501a8718d60af" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1029590&AucID=947&Lot=1895&Val=3a19dadafc24a2a8da8501a8718d60af" rel="nofollow">http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1029590&AucID=947&Lot=1895&Val=3a19dadafc24a2a8da8501a8718d60af</a>　　Italian States, Vatican (Papale or Stato Pontifacio): - : Grosso (silver) 872-882:　　<a href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1029594&AucID=947&Lot=1899&Val=50bb07ef66d848b19bebb85dade13aed" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1029594&AucID=947&Lot=1899&Val=50bb07ef66d848b19bebb85dade13aed" rel="nofollow">http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=1029594&AucID=947&Lot=1899&Val=50bb07ef66d848b19bebb85dade13aed</a>　　By the way, Grosso translates to "Fat" or "The Fat."　　Thought you should know... Clinker[/QUOTE]

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