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<p>[QUOTE="900fine, post: 421151, member: 6036"]As always ! Thanks, Clinker !</p><p><br /></p><p>Does it depend on perspective, or definition of terms ?</p><p> </p><p><b>First, we have to define "coin". </b>To me, a coin must must include all of the following characteristics : metallic, flat, any shape, stamped on at least one side, intended for use as a medium of financial exchange (as opposed to a medal), and officially sanctioned by a government.</p><p> </p><p>This excludes wampum. We would have to investigate and determine if any other Native American technology produced anything fitting the definition of "coin". If they did, then the date and nature of the first "coin" is probably lost in antiquity. Personally, this is the stickiest issue. It's possible something Native American (pre-Norse) could be considered "coin".</p><p> </p><p>The word <b>"in"</b> implies <b>"came to be on these shores by any means",</b> including <b>carried here</b> by anyone (imperial Europeans or anyone else), <b>minted here</b> by anyone, or planted here by the same aliens who abducted Elvis. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p> </p><p><b>Certainly we must agree on a definition of the term "Americas"</b>. Other than the obvious two continents, we would have determine which islands (Atlantic AND Pacific) constitute "Americas". For instance - Hawaii. There were people there before Columbus. Did they have coins ?</p><p> </p><p>The term "Western Hemisphere" is not adequate, as it includes real estate not part of the Americas.</p><p> </p><p>If we use those definitions, Clinker's research indicates the first KNOWN coin IN the Americas was the Norse "Maine Penny". Who knows what else will turn up ?</p><p> </p><p>The first coin MADE in the Americas was in Mexico City.</p><p> </p><p>Anyone is free to disagree on definitions, and is likely to come up with different honorees for "first".</p><p> </p><p>Thanks again, Clinker ! Good stuff as always.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="900fine, post: 421151, member: 6036"]As always ! Thanks, Clinker ! Does it depend on perspective, or definition of terms ? [B]First, we have to define "coin". [/B]To me, a coin must must include all of the following characteristics : metallic, flat, any shape, stamped on at least one side, intended for use as a medium of financial exchange (as opposed to a medal), and officially sanctioned by a government. This excludes wampum. We would have to investigate and determine if any other Native American technology produced anything fitting the definition of "coin". If they did, then the date and nature of the first "coin" is probably lost in antiquity. Personally, this is the stickiest issue. It's possible something Native American (pre-Norse) could be considered "coin". The word [B]"in"[/B] implies [B]"came to be on these shores by any means",[/B] including [B]carried here[/B] by anyone (imperial Europeans or anyone else), [B]minted here[/B] by anyone, or planted here by the same aliens who abducted Elvis. ;) [B]Certainly we must agree on a definition of the term "Americas"[/B]. Other than the obvious two continents, we would have determine which islands (Atlantic AND Pacific) constitute "Americas". For instance - Hawaii. There were people there before Columbus. Did they have coins ? The term "Western Hemisphere" is not adequate, as it includes real estate not part of the Americas. If we use those definitions, Clinker's research indicates the first KNOWN coin IN the Americas was the Norse "Maine Penny". Who knows what else will turn up ? The first coin MADE in the Americas was in Mexico City. Anyone is free to disagree on definitions, and is likely to come up with different honorees for "first". Thanks again, Clinker ! Good stuff as always.[/QUOTE]
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