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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;eddiespin, post: 2639531, member: 4920&quot;]OK, Doug. But this is all I want to know, what did you do to it? Let me be the judge on whether that&#039;s &quot;acceptable&quot; or not.</p><p><br /></p><p>You&#039;re right. A seller doesn&#039;t know what may have happened to the coin in the chain-of-custody. What did you do to the coin? Tell me what you know. That&#039;s all.</p><p><br /></p><p>Let me again restate the issue, if he doesn&#039;t tell. He decides where the line is between acceptable conservation and unacceptable cleaning, and he doesn&#039;t let me decide it. Where is that line? Survey 1000 different people, and it&#039;s in 1000 different places. If it&#039;s a Brillo Pad, we agree. What if it&#039;s [USER=17261]@BadThad[/USER]&#039;s proprietary formula? PCGS was taking our submission fees and giving those coins the &quot;Genuine&quot; back in the days, not that long ago, when JA, they, and a few others I&#039;ll call them weasels were outright manufacturing the hysteria on the coin doctors around every corner, and we were scared out of our wits to buy a coin for it, that wasn&#039;t in a PCGS holder.</p><p><br /></p><p>Just tell me what you did. You don&#039;t, I find out, we&#039;re over. That&#039;s the only ethical way, because the line is different, from one person to the next. To illustrate even further, there was a dealer, here, and he was in PCGS and NGC, too, who toned five coins with the sulfur from wooden match sticks, and five for five graded. PCGS graded them. Is that &quot;acceptable?&quot; Five for five. He batted 1.000 with David Hall and his $100,000-a-year coin graders at the Professional Coin Grading Service. Seems that&#039;s pretty strong evidence that practice is acceptable. This dealer is going to tell me what he did to those coins. If I rather have to find that out, myself, it&#039;s the last coin he sells to me.</p><p><br /></p><p>Having said all that, I&#039;d buy a coin from you or Insider in a heartbeat, because I&#039;m confident, while we disagree on some of these finer ethical points, you two are going to answer my questions. You may think I&#039;m all whacked-up for them, but I&#039;m confident you&#039;re going to answer them. And maybe I am all whacked-up for them. But then, understand this. That&#039;s just the way I am, and there&#039;s nothing that anybody can do about it.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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