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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2082835, member: 19463"]Two facts you can deny if you must:</p><p>1. The Tiberius coin is the one that carries the add-on demand from people who want a coin to go with the Bible story. You can prove to your satisfaction anything you wish and you will not change the association of that one coin with the story (real word for word or a parable). The Tiberius has been the Tribute Penny of the numismatic trade long enough that any degree of science or truth will not be able to change it.</p><p><br /></p><p>2. There are two very separate taxes that seem to get confused here. Every Jewish male was required to pay a tax to the temple of one didrachm or half a tetradrachm. This supported the Jewish Temple activities and was not collected from non-Jews. Augustus changed the tax structure for money owed to Rome collected from Provincials but this money was completely separate from the Jewish tax and was paid according to a person's wealth on top of a 'head tax' based on the number of people in the Province. I do not know what form this money was paid in but it would not have been limited to the Tyrian silver required by the Temple. This is discussed here:</p><p><a href="http://www.unrv.com/economy/roman-taxes.php" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.unrv.com/economy/roman-taxes.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.unrv.com/economy/roman-taxes.php</a></p><p>Do note that the hated wealth tax was 1%. I do not know what the tax per person was. I rather suspect that there were other taxes not mentioned here that supported the king, local government and extortionists of any kind so I have no good idea on how oppressive or light was the burden on a guy like me in the First Century AD. The only tax referencing coin I am aware of is the RCC quadrans of Caligula honoring his repeal of a 1/200th tax. In general, the emperors owned property (like all of Eqypt) and gave donatives to the poorer citizens. Taxes were on Provincials and rich people. </p><p><br /></p><p>I do not know how people 'prove' that a certain coin was or was not in a certain hand at any given time but all this makes no difference unless your religious views require the story to be literal rather than a parable (a literary form much used by Jesus).[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2082835, member: 19463"]Two facts you can deny if you must: 1. The Tiberius coin is the one that carries the add-on demand from people who want a coin to go with the Bible story. You can prove to your satisfaction anything you wish and you will not change the association of that one coin with the story (real word for word or a parable). The Tiberius has been the Tribute Penny of the numismatic trade long enough that any degree of science or truth will not be able to change it. 2. There are two very separate taxes that seem to get confused here. Every Jewish male was required to pay a tax to the temple of one didrachm or half a tetradrachm. This supported the Jewish Temple activities and was not collected from non-Jews. Augustus changed the tax structure for money owed to Rome collected from Provincials but this money was completely separate from the Jewish tax and was paid according to a person's wealth on top of a 'head tax' based on the number of people in the Province. I do not know what form this money was paid in but it would not have been limited to the Tyrian silver required by the Temple. This is discussed here: [url]http://www.unrv.com/economy/roman-taxes.php[/url] Do note that the hated wealth tax was 1%. I do not know what the tax per person was. I rather suspect that there were other taxes not mentioned here that supported the king, local government and extortionists of any kind so I have no good idea on how oppressive or light was the burden on a guy like me in the First Century AD. The only tax referencing coin I am aware of is the RCC quadrans of Caligula honoring his repeal of a 1/200th tax. In general, the emperors owned property (like all of Eqypt) and gave donatives to the poorer citizens. Taxes were on Provincials and rich people. I do not know how people 'prove' that a certain coin was or was not in a certain hand at any given time but all this makes no difference unless your religious views require the story to be literal rather than a parable (a literary form much used by Jesus).[/QUOTE]
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