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<p>[QUOTE="DonnaML, post: 6719161, member: 110350"]A couple of months ago, I saw a small bronze ancient Egyptian Apis bull for sale at a gallery where I've been making occasional purchases for almost 15 years now:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1270982[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>I've wished I had an artifact like this one for years, and the price was in the affordable range for me. Plus, it's intact except that its left ear is missing -- it's unusual to find these without one or more missing ears, horns, or feet, or without the uraeus broken off the sun disk. However, when I looked closely at the photos on the website, I saw a lot of suspicious-looking pale green spots on both sides:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1270984[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1270985[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>I wondered if the spots might be signs of bronze disease, since I saw no reason why it can't occur in bronze artifacts as easily as coins, even though I'd never encountered it. So I emailed the dealer and asked if that's what the spots could be, and he wrote back to tell me that indeed, the bull had active bronze disease which he'd intended to get treated after he bought it last year, but that doing so fell by the wayside along with a lot of other things during the pandemic. I told him that I might still be interested in buying the bull if he had it treated, so he said he'd send it to a professional art conservator he uses, although she was very busy and might not get to it for a while.</p><p><br /></p><p>A couple of months passed, and the dealer responded to my inquiry by telling me that the conservator had finished the job and returned the artifact to him. So I went down to his store in midtown the other day, and he showed me this report:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1270988[/ATTACH]</p><p>Here's a link to her background and qualifications: <a href="http://artconservationatelier.com/bio/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://artconservationatelier.com/bio/" rel="nofollow">http://artconservationatelier.com/bio/</a>.</p><p><br /></p><p>I'd be very curious to know if her methods sound familiar to those of you who've treated BD in ancient coins, and are anything like what you might have tried yourself.</p><p><br /></p><p>He showed me the bull as it looks now, and although many of the same spots are still somewhat visible, they're no longer flaky and don't look as "angry" to me as they did in the "before" photos. And I still really liked the piece overall. If the conservator had dug out the green spots entirely, there would probably be pitting all over the place. The dealer gave me a 20% discount from the price on the website (which I had been prepared to pay), and told me to bring the bull back in if the bronze disease showed any signs of recurring. So I bought it, and took it home. (No shipping charges!) Just in case, I'm keeping it in its own individual miniature glass dome, so nothing can spread to my other bronze artifacts kept on the same shelf.</p><p><br /></p><p>Interestingly, I didn't realize, until the dealer showed me, that the bull was made with an integral peg for inserting into a base. (Obviously, the wooden base it has now is not the original one; it probably dates to the 1950s or 1960s!)</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1270991[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1270992[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Note that the green spots are still there, but less visible in hand than in the before photos; the most prominent one still visible is on the right flank.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here are the sun disk and uraeus, which you can't really see in the profile photos:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1271007[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1271008[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1270995[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>On the left side, the only green spots I can really still see as very noticeable, even if if I dial up the contrast all the way, are on the insides of the right foreleg and back leg:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1270997[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>However, even though they don't look bad in hand, the green spots on the right side are still all quite visible when I dial up the contrast all the way:</p><p><br /></p><p>[cont][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="DonnaML, post: 6719161, member: 110350"]A couple of months ago, I saw a small bronze ancient Egyptian Apis bull for sale at a gallery where I've been making occasional purchases for almost 15 years now: [ATTACH=full]1270982[/ATTACH] I've wished I had an artifact like this one for years, and the price was in the affordable range for me. Plus, it's intact except that its left ear is missing -- it's unusual to find these without one or more missing ears, horns, or feet, or without the uraeus broken off the sun disk. However, when I looked closely at the photos on the website, I saw a lot of suspicious-looking pale green spots on both sides: [ATTACH=full]1270984[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1270985[/ATTACH] I wondered if the spots might be signs of bronze disease, since I saw no reason why it can't occur in bronze artifacts as easily as coins, even though I'd never encountered it. So I emailed the dealer and asked if that's what the spots could be, and he wrote back to tell me that indeed, the bull had active bronze disease which he'd intended to get treated after he bought it last year, but that doing so fell by the wayside along with a lot of other things during the pandemic. I told him that I might still be interested in buying the bull if he had it treated, so he said he'd send it to a professional art conservator he uses, although she was very busy and might not get to it for a while. A couple of months passed, and the dealer responded to my inquiry by telling me that the conservator had finished the job and returned the artifact to him. So I went down to his store in midtown the other day, and he showed me this report: [ATTACH=full]1270988[/ATTACH] Here's a link to her background and qualifications: [URL]http://artconservationatelier.com/bio/[/URL]. I'd be very curious to know if her methods sound familiar to those of you who've treated BD in ancient coins, and are anything like what you might have tried yourself. He showed me the bull as it looks now, and although many of the same spots are still somewhat visible, they're no longer flaky and don't look as "angry" to me as they did in the "before" photos. And I still really liked the piece overall. If the conservator had dug out the green spots entirely, there would probably be pitting all over the place. The dealer gave me a 20% discount from the price on the website (which I had been prepared to pay), and told me to bring the bull back in if the bronze disease showed any signs of recurring. So I bought it, and took it home. (No shipping charges!) Just in case, I'm keeping it in its own individual miniature glass dome, so nothing can spread to my other bronze artifacts kept on the same shelf. Interestingly, I didn't realize, until the dealer showed me, that the bull was made with an integral peg for inserting into a base. (Obviously, the wooden base it has now is not the original one; it probably dates to the 1950s or 1960s!) [ATTACH=full]1270991[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1270992[/ATTACH] Note that the green spots are still there, but less visible in hand than in the before photos; the most prominent one still visible is on the right flank. Here are the sun disk and uraeus, which you can't really see in the profile photos: [ATTACH=full]1271007[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1271008[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1270995[/ATTACH] On the left side, the only green spots I can really still see as very noticeable, even if if I dial up the contrast all the way, are on the insides of the right foreleg and back leg: [ATTACH=full]1270997[/ATTACH] However, even though they don't look bad in hand, the green spots on the right side are still all quite visible when I dial up the contrast all the way: [cont][/QUOTE]
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