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<p>[QUOTE="SensibleSal66, post: 26252838, member: 115232"]It's Tuesday and it's going to be a scorcher here there and everywhere. It makes me think of storms and more excitedly, shipwrecks and lost coins at sea! That's what inspired me to buy this coin. I wanted to get a shipwreck coin from the 1715 lost fleet but they are too expensive for me, so I decide upon getting a 2R Spanish coin from the ship, El Cazador instead.</p><p> </p><p>The <i><b>El Cazador</b></i> (meaning <i>The Hunter</i> in English) was a Spanish <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brig" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brig" rel="nofollow">brig</a> that sank in the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Mexico" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Mexico" rel="nofollow">Gulf of Mexico</a> in 1784. In the 1770s the Spanish Louisiana Territory’s economy was faltering due to paper money that was not backed by silver or gold. Carlos III, King of Spain, decided to replace the worthless currency with valuable Spanish silver coins.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Cazador_(ship)#cite_note-penniesworth.net-1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Cazador_(ship)#cite_note-penniesworth.net-1" rel="nofollow">[1]</a> On 20 October 1783 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_III_of_Spain" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_III_of_Spain" rel="nofollow">Charles III of Spain</a> sent her on a mission to bring much-needed hard currency to the Spanish colony of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_(New_Spain)" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_(New_Spain)" rel="nofollow">Louisiana</a> in order to stabilize the currency. The ship sailed to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veracruz,_Veracruz" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veracruz,_Veracruz" rel="nofollow">Veracruz</a>, Mexico, where she was loaded with approximately 450,000 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_colonial_real" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_colonial_real" rel="nofollow">Spanish reales</a>.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Cazador_(ship)#cite_note-2" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Cazador_(ship)#cite_note-2" rel="nofollow">[2]</a> To be more precise, she was loaded with silver Spanish coins, mostly 8 reales, “Pieces of Eight,” It carried 400,000 silver pesos and another 50,000 pesos worth of smaller change, of various dates. At one ounce to the peso, and 12 troy ounces to the pound, that's 37,500 pounds of silver.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Cazador_(ship)#cite_note-penniesworth.net-1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Cazador_(ship)#cite_note-penniesworth.net-1" rel="nofollow">[1]</a> King Carlos III enlisted his most trusted captain, Gabriel de Campos y Pineda, to command the ship.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Cazador_(ship)#cite_note-artifact-3" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Cazador_(ship)#cite_note-artifact-3" rel="nofollow">[3]</a> On 11 January 1784, she sailed for <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Orleans" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Orleans" rel="nofollow">New Orleans</a>, and was never heard from again.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Cazador_(ship)#cite_note-4" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Cazador_(ship)#cite_note-4" rel="nofollow">[4]</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Cazador_(ship)#cite_note-5" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Cazador_(ship)#cite_note-5" rel="nofollow">[5]</a> Spain’s attempts to locate the ship were unsuccessful and in June 1784, <i>El Cazador</i> was officially listed as missing at sea.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Cazador_(ship)#cite_note-artifact-3" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Cazador_(ship)#cite_note-artifact-3" rel="nofollow">[3]</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Then on 2 August 1993, the trawler <i>Mistake</i>, Captain Jerry Murphy and home port <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascagoula,_Mississippi" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascagoula,_Mississippi" rel="nofollow">Pascagoula, Mississippi</a>, was fishing in the Gulf of Mexico fifty miles south of New Orleans. As it fished, <i>Mistake</i>'s net hung on a snag. When the crew hoisted the net and dumped the contents on the deck, they found the net was filled with silver coins. The coins bore markings from the Spanish mint in Mexico, along with the date 1783.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Cazador_(ship)#cite_note-6" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Cazador_(ship)#cite_note-6" rel="nofollow">[6]</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Cazador_(ship)#cite_note-7" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Cazador_(ship)#cite_note-7" rel="nofollow">[7]</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Treasure from the ship was originally housed in a safe at the old Grand Bay State Bank building in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Bay,_Alabama" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Bay,_Alabama" rel="nofollow">Grand Bay, Alabama</a>. In December 2004 the Executors of the Reahard estate hired Jonathan Lerner of Scarsdale Coin to appraise the coins. This appraisal was completed in February 2005.</p><p><br /></p><p>It is now administered through the Franklin Mint.</p><p> </p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1715_Treasure_Fleet" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1715_Treasure_Fleet" rel="nofollow">[ATTACH=full]1676991[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1676992[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1676993[/ATTACH] </a></p><p> Please post your treasure ship coins as well.... </p><p> (Even if it's just a coin that's a treasure to you.)[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="SensibleSal66, post: 26252838, member: 115232"]It's Tuesday and it's going to be a scorcher here there and everywhere. It makes me think of storms and more excitedly, shipwrecks and lost coins at sea! That's what inspired me to buy this coin. I wanted to get a shipwreck coin from the 1715 lost fleet but they are too expensive for me, so I decide upon getting a 2R Spanish coin from the ship, El Cazador instead. The [I][B]El Cazador[/B][/I] (meaning [I]The Hunter[/I] in English) was a Spanish [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brig']brig[/URL] that sank in the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Mexico']Gulf of Mexico[/URL] in 1784. In the 1770s the Spanish Louisiana Territory’s economy was faltering due to paper money that was not backed by silver or gold. Carlos III, King of Spain, decided to replace the worthless currency with valuable Spanish silver coins.[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Cazador_(ship)#cite_note-penniesworth.net-1'][1][/URL] On 20 October 1783 [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_III_of_Spain']Charles III of Spain[/URL] sent her on a mission to bring much-needed hard currency to the Spanish colony of [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_(New_Spain)']Louisiana[/URL] in order to stabilize the currency. The ship sailed to [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veracruz,_Veracruz']Veracruz[/URL], Mexico, where she was loaded with approximately 450,000 [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_colonial_real']Spanish reales[/URL].[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Cazador_(ship)#cite_note-2'][2][/URL] To be more precise, she was loaded with silver Spanish coins, mostly 8 reales, “Pieces of Eight,” It carried 400,000 silver pesos and another 50,000 pesos worth of smaller change, of various dates. At one ounce to the peso, and 12 troy ounces to the pound, that's 37,500 pounds of silver.[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Cazador_(ship)#cite_note-penniesworth.net-1'][1][/URL] King Carlos III enlisted his most trusted captain, Gabriel de Campos y Pineda, to command the ship.[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Cazador_(ship)#cite_note-artifact-3'][3][/URL] On 11 January 1784, she sailed for [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Orleans']New Orleans[/URL], and was never heard from again.[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Cazador_(ship)#cite_note-4'][4][/URL][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Cazador_(ship)#cite_note-5'][5][/URL] Spain’s attempts to locate the ship were unsuccessful and in June 1784, [I]El Cazador[/I] was officially listed as missing at sea.[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Cazador_(ship)#cite_note-artifact-3'][3][/URL] Then on 2 August 1993, the trawler [I]Mistake[/I], Captain Jerry Murphy and home port [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascagoula,_Mississippi']Pascagoula, Mississippi[/URL], was fishing in the Gulf of Mexico fifty miles south of New Orleans. As it fished, [I]Mistake[/I]'s net hung on a snag. When the crew hoisted the net and dumped the contents on the deck, they found the net was filled with silver coins. The coins bore markings from the Spanish mint in Mexico, along with the date 1783.[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Cazador_(ship)#cite_note-6'][6][/URL][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Cazador_(ship)#cite_note-7'][7][/URL] Treasure from the ship was originally housed in a safe at the old Grand Bay State Bank building in [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Bay,_Alabama']Grand Bay, Alabama[/URL]. In December 2004 the Executors of the Reahard estate hired Jonathan Lerner of Scarsdale Coin to appraise the coins. This appraisal was completed in February 2005. It is now administered through the Franklin Mint. [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1715_Treasure_Fleet'][ATTACH=full]1676991[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1676992[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1676993[/ATTACH] [/URL] Please post your treasure ship coins as well.... (Even if it's just a coin that's a treasure to you.)[/QUOTE]
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