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<p>[QUOTE="oval_man, post: 1073511, member: 22602"]I'm still skeptical of your "20% less than retail" figure (as a guide to what a dealer will pay for a coin) at least when talking about lower-end material. And let's face it, lower-end material is what most collectors want to cull from their collections and what you mostly see at shows.</p><p><br /></p><p>Let's use your example of a $200 threshold. I've bought PQ slabbed coins in that range from local dealers (at shows) who, as I said earlier, consistently sell around Greysheet bid. If you're saying that "retail" is 10-20% above Greysheet (I'm assuming you mean ask or between bid and ask)—and I totally agree that that's a useful definition of retail—that means that these dealers should be buying back at between bid and ask (20% less than retail).</p><p><br /></p><p>But I'm buying coins at bid from them. And I think auction prices are consistent with this: on ebay and Heritage, I see a lot of common stuff (such as gem Morgans or Walkers) going for around bid.</p><p><br /></p><p>So If coins are selling for bid, dealers are going to offer less than bid—maybe 80%—and therefore much less than retail for them, again, we're back to 60 or 65%. This seems to be, in my experience, also consistent with the Bluesheet.</p><p><br /></p><p>I'm just playing devil's advocate here because I've also considered selling off some coins on ebay. I still don't want the hassle of doing that and would rather sell to a dealer, but Rhino does have an argument that you can recoup more selling collector to collector.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="oval_man, post: 1073511, member: 22602"]I'm still skeptical of your "20% less than retail" figure (as a guide to what a dealer will pay for a coin) at least when talking about lower-end material. And let's face it, lower-end material is what most collectors want to cull from their collections and what you mostly see at shows. Let's use your example of a $200 threshold. I've bought PQ slabbed coins in that range from local dealers (at shows) who, as I said earlier, consistently sell around Greysheet bid. If you're saying that "retail" is 10-20% above Greysheet (I'm assuming you mean ask or between bid and ask)—and I totally agree that that's a useful definition of retail—that means that these dealers should be buying back at between bid and ask (20% less than retail). But I'm buying coins at bid from them. And I think auction prices are consistent with this: on ebay and Heritage, I see a lot of common stuff (such as gem Morgans or Walkers) going for around bid. So If coins are selling for bid, dealers are going to offer less than bid—maybe 80%—and therefore much less than retail for them, again, we're back to 60 or 65%. This seems to be, in my experience, also consistent with the Bluesheet. I'm just playing devil's advocate here because I've also considered selling off some coins on ebay. I still don't want the hassle of doing that and would rather sell to a dealer, but Rhino does have an argument that you can recoup more selling collector to collector.[/QUOTE]
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