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<p>[QUOTE="Severus Alexander, post: 2665782, member: 84744"]Here's an earlier coin of Ubayd Allah's father, Ziyad ibn Abih ("son of his father", because his parentage was obscure), minted in 670-71 (50 AH) in Bishapur. ("Bismillah rabbi" in the margin, Album-5.) Ziyad was born in AH 1 and as a general, originally fought for the Caliph 'Ali... but with the success of the Umayyads under Mu'awiyah, he was persuaded to switch sides and became governor of Basra and Kufa, a position his son inherited. Both he and his son suppressed Aliid rebellions for the Umayyads, with the son being particularly reviled in the Shia tradition for killing a grandson of Muhammad, Husayn.</p><p><br /></p><p>So both of these coins are significant with respect to the Shia-Sunni conflict we still see today.</p><p><br /></p><p>(On my coin, you can also see some Turco-Hephthalite countermarks. In 671, Ziyad sent 50,000 troops to Merv, which formed the nucleus of Islamic Khorasan, the basis for the eventual subjection of territories in central Asia. It is plausible that the countermarks resulted from the coin's circulation in this area after being taken near there by Ziyad's troops.)</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]592354[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Severus Alexander, post: 2665782, member: 84744"]Here's an earlier coin of Ubayd Allah's father, Ziyad ibn Abih ("son of his father", because his parentage was obscure), minted in 670-71 (50 AH) in Bishapur. ("Bismillah rabbi" in the margin, Album-5.) Ziyad was born in AH 1 and as a general, originally fought for the Caliph 'Ali... but with the success of the Umayyads under Mu'awiyah, he was persuaded to switch sides and became governor of Basra and Kufa, a position his son inherited. Both he and his son suppressed Aliid rebellions for the Umayyads, with the son being particularly reviled in the Shia tradition for killing a grandson of Muhammad, Husayn. So both of these coins are significant with respect to the Shia-Sunni conflict we still see today. (On my coin, you can also see some Turco-Hephthalite countermarks. In 671, Ziyad sent 50,000 troops to Merv, which formed the nucleus of Islamic Khorasan, the basis for the eventual subjection of territories in central Asia. It is plausible that the countermarks resulted from the coin's circulation in this area after being taken near there by Ziyad's troops.) [ATTACH=full]592354[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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