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Message:: [QUOTE="Terence Cheesman, post: 3588345, member: 86498"]Nathan P what you seem to have is one of the Flament Type I which is minted starting in 454 B.C. The terminus of this group is debated but it seems to be the smallest of the three Flament groups. The Starr Group V coins have an owl with a visible three pronged tail feathers, whereas the 454-404 groups all have the tail feathers forming a single prong. Here are three of mine1. Athens Tetradrachm Starr V A Circa 465 B.C. 16.91 grams 24 mm These coins tend to resemble the Starr Group IV's except that the hair over Athena's forehead is depicted as a single curve[ATTACH=full]958434[/ATTACH]2. Athens Tetradrachm Early Flament I Circa 454 B.C. 17.41 grams 25 mm These coins are often very well struck with broad flans and the owls can be very large. Both sides can resemble the later Starr Group V B Coins except for the tail feathers.[ATTACH=full]958436[/ATTACH] 3. Athens tetradrachm Late Flament Type I Circa 450 B.C. 17.22 grams 24 mm These coins tend to resemble the later Flament Group II coins especially as the owl has his head straight though on these the head is slightly tilted back. The flans as in this case can be less well produced.[ATTACH=full]958437[/ATTACH] Happy Collectors first coin is a Starr V B discussed above[/QUOTE]