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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;dougsmit, post: 4902923, member: 19463&quot;]Latin language Colonials from cities priviledged to use Latin should, like Roman Collector&#039;s Marsyas, use AVG on the obverse but the die cutter on my Deultum got confused and used Latin letters to abbreviate SEBasta.&nbsp; I wonder if the SAB at the start played any part making his mind think SAB---SEB.&nbsp;&nbsp; The reverse show Apollo with lyre.&nbsp; Remember that Marsyas was the Satyr who made the mistake of challenging Apollo to a music contest so these two coins are related.&nbsp; Does anyone know if there is a Deultum coin showing Marsyas with a flute that would add to this set?&nbsp; If we really wanted to go over the deep end we could rewrite the story a bit and suggest that the Roman Collector type does not show a wineskin if the liquid variety but shows that Marsyas&#039; challenge to Apollo was not using Athena&#039;s flute as the myth relates but that he actually was using a bagpipe.&nbsp; Challenging a god to a contest is just plain old stupid (as Marsyas discovered) but bringing a bagpipe to the fight would be suitable only for a Monte Python move stunt.&nbsp; </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1182911[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;Am I too ridiculous?&nbsp; Certainly that was the intent but read this bit from Dio Chrysostom.</p><p><a href="http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Dio_Chrysostom/Discourses/71*.html#9" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Dio_Chrysostom/Discourses/71*.html#9" rel="nofollow">http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Dio_Chrysostom/Discourses/71*.html#9</a></p><p>&nbsp;&quot;<span style="color: #000000">And yet </span><span style="color: #b30000">a certain king of our times</span><span style="color: #000000"> had the ambition to be wise in this sort of wisdom, believing that he had knowledge of very many things — not, however, of such things as do not receive applause among men, but rather those for which it is possible to win a crown — I mean acting as a herald, singing to the cithara, reciting tragedies, wrestling, and taking part in the <a href="https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/secondary/SMIGRA*/Pancratium.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/secondary/SMIGRA*/Pancratium.html" rel="nofollow">pancration</a>.&nbsp; </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">Besides, they say that he could paint and fashion statues and play the pipe, both by means of his lips and </span><span style="color: #ff0000">by tucking a skin beneath his armpits</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)"> with a view to avoiding the reproach of Athena! Was he not, then, a wise man?&quot;</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">Some propose that the &#039;certain king&#039; might have been Nero.&nbsp; IF I were to write this story into Mythological fiction, I would explain the invention of the bagpipe by Apollo crafting the prototype from the pipes of Athena and the hide of the Satyr who should have known better.&nbsp; Ancient coins can be fun if you don&#039;t take them, or yourself, too seriously. </span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><br /></span></p><p>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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