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<p>[QUOTE="Cucumbor, post: 5140433, member: 4298"]Hi CT folks,</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Among the huge quantity of syro-phoenician tetradrachms available on the market, a vast majority has what we might call « regular busts », i.e. laureate (or radiate), draped and cuirassed bust of the Emperor right (or left), such as the following example :</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1206041[/ATTACH]</p><p><font size="3"><b>Trajan Decius (09/249 - 07 or 08/251) – Billo</b>n Tetradrachm, Antioch mint - 5° officina</font></p><p><font size="3">Ref : Prieur # 585</font></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Occasionnally will be encountered something a bit different ([USER=97383]@Al Kowsky[/USER] knows) : an unusual bust, showing a hand, a sword, a spear, a decorated shield, or a piece of clothing. They are of course scarcer, sometimes rare to very rare. All the examples below, with a white background are not mine (unfortunately) but taken from the CGB archives database</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1206042[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><font size="3"><b>Elagabal</b> - Prieur 253 (4 ex.) - McAlee 773 – R3</font></p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1206043[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><font size="3"><b>Gordian III </b>- Prieur 299 (11 ex. this example illustrated) - McAlee 884. From the McAlee collection – R1</font></p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1206044[/ATTACH]</p><p><font size="3"><b>Philip the Arab</b> - Prieur 427 (6 ex) - McAlee 946 – R3</font></p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1206045[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><font size="3"><b>Philip the Arab</b> - Prieur 435 (2 ex) - McAlee 954(b) – R3</font></p><p><font size="3"><br /></font></p><p><font size="3"><br /></font></p><p><font size="3"><font size="4">I was lucky a few days ago to put my hands on such an unusual bust for Trajan Decius, and didn’t hesitate to pull the trigger, even though the metal looked a bit porous from the sellers pictures. Anyway, I felt it was rare enough to take the plunge, a lesser example I saw elsewhere being currently for sale at three times what I paid for mine. I’m pretty sure that one will make its way to my 2020 top list…</font></font></p><p><br /></p><p><font size="3"><font size="4">[ATTACH=full]1206046[/ATTACH] </font></font></p><p><font size="3"><font size="4"><b>Trajan Decius (09/249 - 07or08/251) </b>– Billon Tetradrachm, Antioch mint - 7° officina</font></font></p><p><font size="3"><font size="4"><b>AYT K Γ ME KY TPAIANOC ΔEKIOC CEB</b> Radiate bust right, cuirassed with trabea on right shoulder, and balteus on chest, seen from front. Z under bust.</font></font></p><p><font size="3"><font size="4"><b>ΔHMAPX EΞOYCIAC</b> Eagle standing right on a palm branch, head right holding wreath in beak, and wings spread. At exergue <b>SC</b></font></font></p><p><font size="3"><font size="4">27 mm - 12,35 gr - 6h</font></font></p><p><font size="3"><font size="4">Ref : Prieur # 558 (2), McAlee # 1140 (very rare)</font></font></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><font size="3"><font size="4">As suspected from the pictures, the metal of the coin is somewhat porous and the planchet was not of the better quality, but the overall aspect is OK, and in hand the coin is pleasant with not much wear to it.</font></font></p><p><br /></p><p><font size="3"><font size="4">Now, I can hear you folks, screaming from the back of the room « <i>Sir, what are a trabea and a balteus, please ?</i> »</font></font></p><p><br /></p><p><font size="3"><font size="4">To be honest, I had to check and do some homework, as I don’t usually dress as an Emperor when at work.</font></font></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><font size="3"><font size="4"><b>TRABEA, or TOGA TRABEA </b>: Trabea (plural trabeae) is the name of various pieces of Roman clothing. A distinct feature of all trabeae was their color - usually red or purple. They were formed like a toga and possibly in some cases like a mantle and worn by more distinguished members of Roman society.</font></font></p><p><br /></p><p><font size="3"><font size="4">A garment known as the trabea triumphalis was commonly worn by consuls in Late Antiquity. When Emperor Justinian II abolished the office of 'consul as a separate entity from the Emperor himself, the trabea triumphalis developed into the loros, which was the worn only by the imperial family and senior administrative officials. Although Emperor Leo VI abolished the ancient title of consul altogether, the loros persisted until the end of the empire as the formal, ceremonial dress of the emperors (©Wikipedia.org)</font></font></p><p><br /></p><p><font size="3"><font size="4">What we see here on the right shoulder of the emperor is the knot of the trabea, possibly hold with a fibula</font></font></p><p><br /></p><p><font size="3"><font size="4">[MEDIA=youtube]2cX2Uy5m4bI[/MEDIA]</font></font></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><font size="3"><font size="4"><b>BALTEUS</b> : During ancient Roman times the balteus (plural baltei) was a type of baldric commonly used to suspend a sword. It was a belt generally worn over the shoulder, passing obliquely down to the side, typically made of leather, often ornamented with precious stones, metals or both (©Wikipedia.org)</font></font></p><p><br /></p><p><font size="3"><font size="4">[ATTACH=full]1206048[/ATTACH]</font></font></p><p><font size="3"><font size="4"><font size="3"><a href="https://1001antiquites.net/antiquite/sens-de-balteus-ou-balteum.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://1001antiquites.net/antiquite/sens-de-balteus-ou-balteum.html" rel="nofollow">https://1001antiquites.net/antiquite/sens-de-balteus-ou-balteum.html</a></font></font></font></p><p><font size="3"><br /></font></p><p><br /></p><p><font size="3"><font size="4">Comments and corrections are welcome. Please post any trabeae or baltei you might have on your coins, or anything you feel relevant,</font></font></p><p><br /></p><p><font size="3"><font size="4">Thanks for reading</font></font></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><font size="3"><font size="4">Resources :</font></font></p><p><font size="3"><font size="4">1 - <i>Prieur M & K, The syro-phoenician tetradrachms and their fractions from 57 BC to AD 253 – CNG, London – 2000</i></font></font></p><p><font size="3"><font size="4">2 - <i>McAlee R, The coins of roman Antioch – CNG, London - 2007 </i></font></font></p><p><br /></p><p><font size="3"><br /></font></p><p><font size="3"><font size="4">Q</font></font>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Cucumbor, post: 5140433, member: 4298"]Hi CT folks, Among the huge quantity of syro-phoenician tetradrachms available on the market, a vast majority has what we might call « regular busts », i.e. laureate (or radiate), draped and cuirassed bust of the Emperor right (or left), such as the following example : [ATTACH=full]1206041[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3][B]Trajan Decius (09/249 - 07 or 08/251) – Billo[/B]n Tetradrachm, Antioch mint - 5° officina Ref : Prieur # 585[/SIZE] Occasionnally will be encountered something a bit different ([USER=97383]@Al Kowsky[/USER] knows) : an unusual bust, showing a hand, a sword, a spear, a decorated shield, or a piece of clothing. They are of course scarcer, sometimes rare to very rare. All the examples below, with a white background are not mine (unfortunately) but taken from the CGB archives database [ATTACH=full]1206042[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3][B]Elagabal[/B] - Prieur 253 (4 ex.) - McAlee 773 – R3[/SIZE] [ATTACH=full]1206043[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3][B]Gordian III [/B]- Prieur 299 (11 ex. this example illustrated) - McAlee 884. From the McAlee collection – R1[/SIZE] [ATTACH=full]1206044[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3][B]Philip the Arab[/B] - Prieur 427 (6 ex) - McAlee 946 – R3[/SIZE] [ATTACH=full]1206045[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3][B]Philip the Arab[/B] - Prieur 435 (2 ex) - McAlee 954(b) – R3 [SIZE=4]I was lucky a few days ago to put my hands on such an unusual bust for Trajan Decius, and didn’t hesitate to pull the trigger, even though the metal looked a bit porous from the sellers pictures. Anyway, I felt it was rare enough to take the plunge, a lesser example I saw elsewhere being currently for sale at three times what I paid for mine. I’m pretty sure that one will make its way to my 2020 top list…[/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][SIZE=4][ATTACH=full]1206046[/ATTACH] [/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][SIZE=4][B]Trajan Decius (09/249 - 07or08/251) [/B]– Billon Tetradrachm, Antioch mint - 7° officina[/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][SIZE=4][B]AYT K Γ ME KY TPAIANOC ΔEKIOC CEB[/B] Radiate bust right, cuirassed with trabea on right shoulder, and balteus on chest, seen from front. Z under bust.[/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][SIZE=4][B]ΔHMAPX EΞOYCIAC[/B] Eagle standing right on a palm branch, head right holding wreath in beak, and wings spread. At exergue [B]SC[/B][/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][SIZE=4]27 mm - 12,35 gr - 6h[/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][SIZE=4]Ref : Prieur # 558 (2), McAlee # 1140 (very rare)[/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][SIZE=4]As suspected from the pictures, the metal of the coin is somewhat porous and the planchet was not of the better quality, but the overall aspect is OK, and in hand the coin is pleasant with not much wear to it.[/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][SIZE=4]Now, I can hear you folks, screaming from the back of the room « [I]Sir, what are a trabea and a balteus, please ?[/I] »[/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][SIZE=4]To be honest, I had to check and do some homework, as I don’t usually dress as an Emperor when at work.[/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][SIZE=4][B]TRABEA, or TOGA TRABEA [/B]: Trabea (plural trabeae) is the name of various pieces of Roman clothing. A distinct feature of all trabeae was their color - usually red or purple. They were formed like a toga and possibly in some cases like a mantle and worn by more distinguished members of Roman society.[/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][SIZE=4]A garment known as the trabea triumphalis was commonly worn by consuls in Late Antiquity. When Emperor Justinian II abolished the office of 'consul as a separate entity from the Emperor himself, the trabea triumphalis developed into the loros, which was the worn only by the imperial family and senior administrative officials. Although Emperor Leo VI abolished the ancient title of consul altogether, the loros persisted until the end of the empire as the formal, ceremonial dress of the emperors (©Wikipedia.org)[/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][SIZE=4]What we see here on the right shoulder of the emperor is the knot of the trabea, possibly hold with a fibula[/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][SIZE=4][MEDIA=youtube]2cX2Uy5m4bI[/MEDIA][/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][SIZE=4][B]BALTEUS[/B] : During ancient Roman times the balteus (plural baltei) was a type of baldric commonly used to suspend a sword. It was a belt generally worn over the shoulder, passing obliquely down to the side, typically made of leather, often ornamented with precious stones, metals or both (©Wikipedia.org)[/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][SIZE=4][ATTACH=full]1206048[/ATTACH][/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][SIZE=4][SIZE=3][URL]https://1001antiquites.net/antiquite/sens-de-balteus-ou-balteum.html[/URL][/SIZE][/SIZE] [/SIZE] [SIZE=3][SIZE=4]Comments and corrections are welcome. Please post any trabeae or baltei you might have on your coins, or anything you feel relevant,[/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][SIZE=4]Thanks for reading[/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][SIZE=4]Resources :[/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][SIZE=4]1 - [I]Prieur M & K, The syro-phoenician tetradrachms and their fractions from 57 BC to AD 253 – CNG, London – 2000[/I][/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][SIZE=4]2 - [I]McAlee R, The coins of roman Antioch – CNG, London - 2007 [/I][/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=3] [SIZE=4]Q[/SIZE][/SIZE][/QUOTE]
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