Trajan Decius 'Dacia' upgrade

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  1. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    When I picked this up I thought the portrait was outstanding and was sure that it would be an across-the-board upgrade to my existing Trajan Decius 'Dacia' antoninianus. I knew that the reverse, being typically worn, made this less than a great coin, but now that I'm looking at it together with my original example, I'm realising that I wish I had the reverse of the first with the obverse and condition of the second. This situation sound familiar to any of you? I guess that's why sometimes we keep the original as well as the upgrade... while we wait for the next one to come along :shame:.

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    TRAJAN DECIUS
    AR Antoninianus. 4.91g, 21.4mm. Rome mint, AD 249-250. RIC 12b; Cohen 16. O: IMP C M Q TRAIANVS DECIVS AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right. O: DACIA, Dacia standing left holding staff topped with a wolf's head (Draco).

    The first example for comparison...
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    As always, please feel free to post any related coins... examples of semi-upgrades, your Trajan Decius 'Dacia' types or any Trajan Decius for that matter.
     
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  3. Pishpash

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  5. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    There's an idea! I'll be sure to note this URL on my tag for the future cataloger of Frankencoin's reference. I can imagine the description already... "Odd case of a collector gluing two coins together. For a bit of a laugh, click this link to see why the idiot did it."
     
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  6. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    That is an unusual Decius portrait but he does have several varieties ranging from boring to full of personality. The beard seems like he was working on growing out a Macrinus look but decided against it. For a short reign, he offers quite a bit of interest to my way of viewing the matter.
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    Of course part of his coinage appeal is his inclusion of both a semis and double sestertius making his bronzes more interesting than some from the period. Neither of mine are high grade but both exist for those who want them.
    https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=273225
    Double sestertius
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    I have seen many more decent double sestertii than semises.
    https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=22346
    semis
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  7. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Great portrait on it. I also like the toning.

    I have gone through several of him too but settled with this due to the reverse.

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    Trajan Decius (249 - 251 A.D.)
    AR Antoninianus
    O: IMP C M Q TRAIANVS DECIVS AVG; radiate, draped & cuirassed bust right.
    R: PANNONIAE; the two Pannoniae, veiled, standing right and left facing one another, clasping right hands in front of standard between them.
    Rome Mint, 251 A.D.
    22mm
    3.2g
    RIC IV Rome 26
     
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  8. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    VERY nice TD, @zumbly ! I only have ONE of Trajan Decius, but it is the same Dacia type as yours!
    RI Trajan Decius 249-251 CE AR Ant Dacia Obv-Rev.jpg
    RI Trajan Decius 249-251 CE AR Ant Dacia
     
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  9. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Thanks for the comments, guys. Still envious of Doug's double sestertius and semis. A quick check shows that there are just three Decius double sestertii listed on Vcoins at the moment. Of the three, the dog (and a bit of a runt at 31g) is 'only' $560. The next step up pricewise is a nice one, and a full 42g, but $3400. I think it'll be some time before I get one of them...
     
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  10. icerain

    icerain Mastir spellyr

    @zumbly If you want the reverse of that coin to look better, just send it my way. A little carving knife can do wonders. :D

    Its a good looking coin, the coin still looks good. The obverse makes up for the reverse, and its not that bad looking anyway.
     
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  11. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Hah... thanks, but I don't condone tooling. I'm going with the "glue" option (see above).
     
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  12. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Decius' doubles and, for that matter, all his bronzes vary a lot in weight. Triton VIII had one over 54g while the smallest are little over half that. There are enough coins I consider certainly genuine to just say weight standards were not a priority. Perhaps the largest were made as presentation pieces???
     
  13. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Keep 'em both!
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  14. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Keep both, yes, I agree !
    Still don't have a double sestertius, but a sestertius and a semis. Doug is right (he often is...) : semis are tough to find

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    Trajan Decius, Antoninianus Rome mint, AD 250-251
    IMP C M Q TRAIANVS DECIVS AVG, radiate and cuirassed bust right, seen from behind
    DACIA, Dacia standing left holding a standard surmounted by an ass's head
    3.52 gr - 20/23 mm
    Ref : RCV # 9368, RSC # 16, RIC IV-3 # 12b
    Ex Auctiones.ch


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    Trajan Decius, Sestertius Rome mint, AD 251
    IMP C M Q TRAIANVS DECIVS AVG, laureate and draped bust right
    DACIA, Dacia standing left, holding roman standard, S|C in field
    20,98 gr
    Cohen # 28, RCV # 9400


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    Trajan Decius, Semis Rome mint, AD 249-250
    IMP C M Q TRAIANVS DECIVS AVG Laureate and draped bust right
    Mars standing left, holding spear and shield. S|C in field
    19 mm, 4,71 gr
    Ref : RIC # 128, Cohen # 102

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  15. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Congrats, Z-Bro => great lookin' Trajan Decius upgrade

    Ummm, I do happen to have a fairly sweet example of this other Trajan fella ...


    Trajan Decius AR Tetradrachm
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    ... this baby is like a mini silver hockey puck (it's a fat lil' bugger)
     
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  16. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    LOVE that portrait @zumbly!!!---Definitely a bit unique.

    Wonderful posts all... Trajan decius sestertius, Pax reverse.jpg Trajan decius ant wide flan obverse.JPG Trajan decius ant wide flan reverse.JPG Volusion Ant, Salus.JPG Volusian Ant, Salus reverse.JPG

    I have a sestertius and a antonianus that I primarily purchased due to the portraits and not for the reverses which is usually the case.

    And a recent purchase of a Ant of Volusion (the last example) which was totally due to the realistic depiction of this ruler, rather than the more common 'cartoonish' styles.
     
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