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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 3673018, member: 24314"]<i><span style="color: #660066">One part of this two-part question would take too much time to write but I'll do a column after some short observations here.</span></i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i><span style="color: #660066">First, emotions should have NOTHING TO DO with coin grading. When they do, beat up coins with extra ordinary color can get graded two or more grades than that deserve and sell for millions of dollars. </span></i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i><span style="color: #660066">This post contains some excellent advice although I don't do it except in the course of rotating it:</span></i></p><p><br /></p><p>messydesk, posted: "Simplistic answer is to do whatever it normally takes for you to set aside emotions from any decision making process.</p><p><br /></p><p>If you look at enough really nice coins, then you can desensitize yourself to the emotional triggers of looking at them. The downside of that is that the emotional triggers are something that we enjoy in this hobby.</p><p><br /></p><p>Another trick to looking more objectively is to <span style="color: rgb(179, 0, 0)">look at the coin upside-down</span> when grading, right side up when admiring. That might give visual cues to your brain that will help."</p><p><br /></p><p>"Islander80-83, posted: "Fortunately or unfortunately, we all can see the same exact thing, hear the same exact thing or read the same exact thing and walk away with multiple opinions. Yes, bias and subjectivity is a major factor. So I guess.............that's why this forum exists."</p><p><br /></p><p><i><span style="color: #660066">While I don't think subjectivity is a good thing about grading, when there is something on a coin, 99.9% of the time it is a certain characteristic and every comment that does not agree is incorrect! So you either see it and know what you are looking at. See it and think you know, See it and don't have a clue what you are looking at or don't see it at all. The goal of all of us should be the first possibility; however, as long as you see it, you can be helped/learn.</span></i></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><i><span style="color: #660066">Read this twice:</span></i></p><p><br /></p><p>TypeCoin971793, posted: "What I do is follow a process. Note that none of these steps are “admire the coin.” That way I can hold a 5-7 digit coin without partiality (which I have done several times).</p><p><br /></p><p>1. Observe the luster. Is it all there? Is it broken? If so, how much is left? Is it natural luster? Is it disturbed by hairlines or other issues? Is it bold and brilliant? Is it soft or subdued?</p><p><br /></p><p>2. Observe surface preservation. Rotate it under a light and catch all post-striking marks. The include bagmarks, hairlines, scratches, etc.</p><p><br /></p><p>3. If the luster is broken from wear, observe the amount of detail/luster left and the strike characteristics to arrive at an appropriate grade. If there is no trace of luster left due to wear, to max it can grade is 45.</p><p><br /></p><p>Step 1 should take 1-3 seconds on each side. Step 2/3 should take a total of 2-5 seconds on each side. There’s no time to get caught up in the coin. Once this is done, you have your objective judgment and can admire the coin all you want.</p><p>This works as well."</p><p><br /></p><p><i><span style="color: #660066">Fortunately, I never worked at a TPGS sweat mill. I have ALWAYS had the luxury of being able to take as much time as I wish to examine any coin at each of the places I've worked.</span></i> <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>trogdor, posted: "I am fortunate enough to be looking at hundreds of coins a day valued anywhere from a cent to $1,000,000+ and I will say that if the goal is to study a coin for potential purchase then dissecting it as GDJMSP suggested is really the best course.</p><p><br /></p><p>Few coins really "wow" me anymore, but for those that do, I make sure to take a step back and reevaluate slooowly. If it's a coin I personally want, then often I solicit a second opinion from my numismatist friends to ensure I'm not adding points where I shouldn't.</p><p><br /></p><p>I work with some of the best numismatists and graders and I can assure you, no one catches everything. That said, the best people in the business train their eyes by really studying thousands of coins in any given series and understanding how coins are being graded at any given moment. Specialists will understand the striking characteristics of any given year so as to know what to expect and even further, know the striking characteristics of specific varieties."</p><p><br /></p><p><i><span style="color: #660066">This poster explains the importance of EXPERIENCE. It would be helpful to know who he is and where he works as he could add lots of "inside" info as this.</span></i>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 3673018, member: 24314"][I][COLOR=#660066]One part of this two-part question would take too much time to write but I'll do a column after some short observations here.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#660066]First, emotions should have NOTHING TO DO with coin grading. When they do, beat up coins with extra ordinary color can get graded two or more grades than that deserve and sell for millions of dollars. [/COLOR] [COLOR=#660066]This post contains some excellent advice although I don't do it except in the course of rotating it:[/COLOR][/I] messydesk, posted: "Simplistic answer is to do whatever it normally takes for you to set aside emotions from any decision making process. If you look at enough really nice coins, then you can desensitize yourself to the emotional triggers of looking at them. The downside of that is that the emotional triggers are something that we enjoy in this hobby. Another trick to looking more objectively is to [COLOR=rgb(179, 0, 0)]look at the coin upside-down[/COLOR] when grading, right side up when admiring. That might give visual cues to your brain that will help." "Islander80-83, posted: "Fortunately or unfortunately, we all can see the same exact thing, hear the same exact thing or read the same exact thing and walk away with multiple opinions. Yes, bias and subjectivity is a major factor. So I guess.............that's why this forum exists." [I][COLOR=#660066]While I don't think subjectivity is a good thing about grading, when there is something on a coin, 99.9% of the time it is a certain characteristic and every comment that does not agree is incorrect! So you either see it and know what you are looking at. See it and think you know, See it and don't have a clue what you are looking at or don't see it at all. The goal of all of us should be the first possibility; however, as long as you see it, you can be helped/learn.[/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=#660066]Read this twice:[/COLOR][/I] TypeCoin971793, posted: "What I do is follow a process. Note that none of these steps are “admire the coin.” That way I can hold a 5-7 digit coin without partiality (which I have done several times). 1. Observe the luster. Is it all there? Is it broken? If so, how much is left? Is it natural luster? Is it disturbed by hairlines or other issues? Is it bold and brilliant? Is it soft or subdued? 2. Observe surface preservation. Rotate it under a light and catch all post-striking marks. The include bagmarks, hairlines, scratches, etc. 3. If the luster is broken from wear, observe the amount of detail/luster left and the strike characteristics to arrive at an appropriate grade. If there is no trace of luster left due to wear, to max it can grade is 45. Step 1 should take 1-3 seconds on each side. Step 2/3 should take a total of 2-5 seconds on each side. There’s no time to get caught up in the coin. Once this is done, you have your objective judgment and can admire the coin all you want. This works as well." [I][COLOR=#660066]Fortunately, I never worked at a TPGS sweat mill. I have ALWAYS had the luxury of being able to take as much time as I wish to examine any coin at each of the places I've worked.[/COLOR][/I] :) trogdor, posted: "I am fortunate enough to be looking at hundreds of coins a day valued anywhere from a cent to $1,000,000+ and I will say that if the goal is to study a coin for potential purchase then dissecting it as GDJMSP suggested is really the best course. Few coins really "wow" me anymore, but for those that do, I make sure to take a step back and reevaluate slooowly. If it's a coin I personally want, then often I solicit a second opinion from my numismatist friends to ensure I'm not adding points where I shouldn't. I work with some of the best numismatists and graders and I can assure you, no one catches everything. That said, the best people in the business train their eyes by really studying thousands of coins in any given series and understanding how coins are being graded at any given moment. Specialists will understand the striking characteristics of any given year so as to know what to expect and even further, know the striking characteristics of specific varieties." [I][COLOR=#660066]This poster explains the importance of EXPERIENCE. It would be helpful to know who he is and where he works as he could add lots of "inside" info as this.[/COLOR][/I][/QUOTE]
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