Trade Dollar.

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by Libertyron, Jan 24, 2019.

  1. Libertyron

    Libertyron Active Member

    Recently found in family old coins. I know these are counterfeited a lot so based on these photos is it real and approximate value. Thks
     

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  3. Idries Pappas

    Idries Pappas Well-Known Member

    Pictures are not enough to determine whether or not it's a counterfeit. What is its weight, thickness, and diameter?
     
  4. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    Looks totally fake to me (too many things to list). But wait for others.

    Compare ..
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  5. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Well-Known Member

    +1 Don’t pass muster
     
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  6. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    FYI you always want the coins rotated in proper position.
    Also try to position the cell phone camera sensor DIRECTLY ABOVE instead of off to the side. And in focus - ie, you cannot get too close as cameras have a minimum focus distance.
     
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  7. SchwaVB57

    SchwaVB57 Well-Known Member

    Plus 2! A few things stick out to me.
     
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  8. SilverDollar2017

    SilverDollar2017 Morgan dollars

    100% counterfeit beyond any doubt. If the reverse doesn't scream fake, look at the obverse. Especially the denticles, date, and Liberty. ;)
     
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  9. Libertyron

    Libertyron Active Member

    Thks for your input
     
  10. derkerlegand

    derkerlegand Well-Known Member

    That is the ugliest Lady Liberty face EVER! Fake fo' sho.
     
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  11. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    Looks like someone turned a cast fake into a potty dollar that is unless it left the Shanghai mint like that...

    I'll wait for the CT lawyers to chime in on the legality of this one...:rolleyes:
     
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  12. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Doesn't look right to me.
     
  13. medoraman

    medoraman Well-Known Member

    Agree. I saw the face and wheat first off myself, then all of the other errors the further I looked.
     
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  14. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    It looks very much fake, sorry for the bad news.
     
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  15. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    I looked at the eagle first. The Wings with the "out line" as a line and the Feathers as Lines ... but there was so much glaringly wrong on both sides.
     
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  16. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    Just look at Lady Liberty on the OP's coin! Now try to imagine that that design would ever make it onto a US government minted coin. OMG :wacky:
     
  17. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Not always, but this time, they certainly are. That thing's a mess.

    My prediction: diameter and thickness are approximately right, weight is way off, and there's a good chance it'll stick to a magnet.
     
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  18. I don't know the mintage but it is a silver dollar. 90 per cent that is. They were issued when silver became scarce for a time and to keep commerce moving the treasury minted them. It probably isn't worth much more than a silver dollar.
    It is old and please keep it due to age. Good coin to pass on to your kids.
    The General
     
  19. Idries Pappas

    Idries Pappas Well-Known Member

    Ummm... it's a counterfeit... probably not very old or silver
     
  20. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Welcome to CoinTalk, but...

    1) It's not a silver dollar. At least, not a real one.
    2) It's almost certainly not 90% silver.
    3) Trade dollars were issued to compete with other countries' coins in overseas trade.
    4) If it were real, it would be worth much more than a common Morgan or Peace dollar, but probably less than a Seated or Bust dollar. As a fake, it's worth less than a silver dollar.
    5) It's not old.
    6) It's not good to pass counterfeits on to your kids.

    Other than that, though...
     
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  21. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Post a picture please.
     
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