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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 8183695, member: 24314"]In order to authenticate a coin it is necessary to know what a genuine looks like. So IMHO <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie104" alt=":yawn:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />, this is the type of <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie103" alt=":yack:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie103" alt=":yack:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie103" alt=":yack:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> that <b><i><span style="color: #b30000">ANYONE</span></i></b> <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie30" alt=":bucktooth:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> who is not blind can say to "pile on:"</p><p><br /></p><p>KBBPLL, posted: "<b><i><span style="color: #b30000">Wow, that's pretty bad. Hard to believe it got slabbed. Compare the lettering on the reverse to a real one."</span></i></b></p><p><b><i><span style="color: #b30000"><br /></span></i></b></p><p><span style="color: #000000">The fact is that 99.9% of the folks posting here that collect US coins and possibly including myself (without having the coin under the scope) <b><font size="6">would not have a clue that coin was a counterfeit!</font></b> Now, give anyone with a "good eye" the fake and the genuine an the result would be different.</span></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Question: Is it fair to test the TPGS by submitting a known counterfeit to see if it will be slabbed.? </p><p><br /></p><p>Jack and I have had this conversation before. The first time I saw him post a TPGS mistake still in the slab I jumped down his throat <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie79" alt=":rage:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie92" alt=":stop:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> and accused him <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie93" alt=":troll:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> of everything under the sun. The reason is, all of you are the eyes of numismatics. You evaluate everything that comes out of a TPGS - for different agendas. Some wish to prove how smart they are and I'll guarantee there are specialized collectors who know more about their field than any professional in the business. Others, act as outside consultants who quietly help rid the world of known and NEW fakes that easily defy detection at first. </p><p><br /></p><p>IMO, Jack does both. He alerts the TPGS's while collecting their mistakes. Those slabbed as genuine by a TPGS are the most deceptive at the time and not the crap that fools 95% of collectors. They make the best collectibles. </p><p><br /></p><p>IMO, it would be better to show the fake outside the slab at the same time as alerting the TPGS of their error and publishing the deceptive fake for the rest of us. BTW, if things keep going as they are now, Jack will be adding many more specimens into his collection. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie57" alt=":jawdrop:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 8183695, member: 24314"]In order to authenticate a coin it is necessary to know what a genuine looks like. So IMHO :yawn:, this is the type of :yack::yack::yack: that [B][I][COLOR=#b30000]ANYONE[/COLOR][/I][/B] :bucktooth: who is not blind can say to "pile on:" KBBPLL, posted: "[B][I][COLOR=#b30000]Wow, that's pretty bad. Hard to believe it got slabbed. Compare the lettering on the reverse to a real one." [/COLOR][/I][/B] [COLOR=#000000]The fact is that 99.9% of the folks posting here that collect US coins and possibly including myself (without having the coin under the scope) [B][SIZE=6]would not have a clue that coin was a counterfeit![/SIZE][/B] Now, give anyone with a "good eye" the fake and the genuine an the result would be different.[/COLOR] Question: Is it fair to test the TPGS by submitting a known counterfeit to see if it will be slabbed.? Jack and I have had this conversation before. The first time I saw him post a TPGS mistake still in the slab I jumped down his throat :rage::stop: and accused him :troll: of everything under the sun. The reason is, all of you are the eyes of numismatics. You evaluate everything that comes out of a TPGS - for different agendas. Some wish to prove how smart they are and I'll guarantee there are specialized collectors who know more about their field than any professional in the business. Others, act as outside consultants who quietly help rid the world of known and NEW fakes that easily defy detection at first. IMO, Jack does both. He alerts the TPGS's while collecting their mistakes. Those slabbed as genuine by a TPGS are the most deceptive at the time and not the crap that fools 95% of collectors. They make the best collectibles. IMO, it would be better to show the fake outside the slab at the same time as alerting the TPGS of their error and publishing the deceptive fake for the rest of us. BTW, if things keep going as they are now, Jack will be adding many more specimens into his collection. :jawdrop::([/QUOTE]
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