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<p>[QUOTE="Phil's Coins, post: 20078727, member: 112104"]I have had numerous problems that I have purchased from individuals from whom I have purchased their collections and on several occasions I have encountered coins form a TPG "I Can't Grade", Until recently I carried this coin with me, in the slab it was graded MS62 (1882 CC) I am not the best grader by any means but when I looked at it under a scope and then compared it to several I have, it was at best in the AU range. ( I sold this coin to a friend with the warning of what I thought and he promptly cracked it and put it in his Whitman album). I travel frequently and I take 2 coins with me, 1. 1879 O graded MS64, and 2. 1880 S graded MS66, I have one of each of these coins that are graded by NGC and PCGS and after a comparison neither of the coins hold up with the grade applied. I mention that I carry them with me only to visit coin shops in the area I travel to just to get their opinion, it leads to some very interesting conversations. One dealer in the Lincoln Nebraska area showed me a box of ICG coins he was getting rid of and when I inquired who was going to purchase them he advised me that they would be sold when cracked them and put them in 2x2 flips for his clients trying to fill albums. I do not have a particular TPG I submit to, it depends on current deals offered but there are two I will not submit to under any circustances, and when I encounter these coins I make it clear that If I purchase them it will NOT be for the grade shown on the slab.</p><p>I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW EVERYONES FEELING ABOUT THIS. I just want to know if I am out of bounds of if you feel or have had the same experiences. </p><p>Looking forward to a great year.</p><p>Semper Fi</p><p>Stay safe. </p><p>Phil[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Phil's Coins, post: 20078727, member: 112104"]I have had numerous problems that I have purchased from individuals from whom I have purchased their collections and on several occasions I have encountered coins form a TPG "I Can't Grade", Until recently I carried this coin with me, in the slab it was graded MS62 (1882 CC) I am not the best grader by any means but when I looked at it under a scope and then compared it to several I have, it was at best in the AU range. ( I sold this coin to a friend with the warning of what I thought and he promptly cracked it and put it in his Whitman album). I travel frequently and I take 2 coins with me, 1. 1879 O graded MS64, and 2. 1880 S graded MS66, I have one of each of these coins that are graded by NGC and PCGS and after a comparison neither of the coins hold up with the grade applied. I mention that I carry them with me only to visit coin shops in the area I travel to just to get their opinion, it leads to some very interesting conversations. One dealer in the Lincoln Nebraska area showed me a box of ICG coins he was getting rid of and when I inquired who was going to purchase them he advised me that they would be sold when cracked them and put them in 2x2 flips for his clients trying to fill albums. I do not have a particular TPG I submit to, it depends on current deals offered but there are two I will not submit to under any circustances, and when I encounter these coins I make it clear that If I purchase them it will NOT be for the grade shown on the slab. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW EVERYONES FEELING ABOUT THIS. I just want to know if I am out of bounds of if you feel or have had the same experiences. Looking forward to a great year. Semper Fi Stay safe. Phil[/QUOTE]
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