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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Coinchemistry 2012, post: 2085877, member: 28107&quot;]I disagree, and there have been enormous variations.&nbsp; When the services started, both were fairly conservative (but even that has some exceptions as coins were also net graded to prevent body bags - see e.g. Capped Bust Half Dollars and old cleanings).&nbsp; The services then became very loose for a while (post OGH/Fatty holders) and began to tighten up again in response to CAC.&nbsp; And in regards to designations, the standards have absolutely changed.&nbsp; The PL and DPL/DMPL standards of the older holders was much looser than it was today, and I know of several that have been downgraded.&nbsp; You could argue that this was just a change in standards, but it also goes to the heart of the issue here.&nbsp; Also, on cameo designations, NGC went through a very loose period but has since tightened up so that it is on par with PCGS.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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