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<p>[QUOTE="NG4, post: 1379765, member: 35878"]I was eyeballing a coin and was trying determine it's grade from the shoddy seller pics.</p><p>I could see that it was slabbed by INS.. apparently out of business.</p><p><br /></p><p>[TABLE="width: 97%"]</p><p>[TR]</p><p>[TD="class: ftalternatingbaroff, width: 99%, bgcolor: #CED0DA, align: right"][TABLE="width: 100%"]</p><p>[TR]</p><p>[TD="colspan: 2"]<span style="color: black"><font face="Arial"><font size="1"><b>INS (International Numismatic Society Authentication Bureau) Little known service based in Washington DC. Active beginning in the mid 70's it specialized in Non-US coins at a time when only ANACS would certify Non-US coins and no one else would grade them. INS actually began grading coins before ANACS making it the first grading firm. Once they began grading the number of US coins submitted rose greatly and the number of “international” coins dropped to a miniscule percentage of those submitted. This company had a very low profile and most people didn’t know it existed even while they were in operation.. They used a certificate back in the 70's and 80's. They announced in Jan 1989 that they would start using slabs Jan 27th 1989. </b></font></font></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><font face="Arial"><font size="1"><b><br /></b></font></font></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><font face="Arial"></font></span>[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[/TABLE]</p><p>[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[/TABLE]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>So.. since mine is slabbed.. it must have been circa.post 1989.</p><p>Does anyone remember this TPG and if they were a decent grader?</p><p>This post is just for my own curiousity...since I already bought the coin. I will prolly crack it out of it's slab when I get ready to send a bunch for grading. Maybe.</p><p>It's my understanding that if you have a graded coin from a TPG that tends to grade upwards of what it's really worth... you might be better off sending it w/o the grading so as to not influence the new grade.</p><p>Sound reasonable?</p><p><br /></p><p>This also from Google...</p><p><br /></p><p><b>The Greysheet's biggest weakness is that it ignores the current state of the grading services. It ranks some of the services in terms of how the market values coins in their slabs. But it fails to rank SEGS, ACG, and NTC, three grading services that have a significant market presence. And it ranks two grading service with virtually no market presence, INS (International Numismatic Society Authentication Bureau), which folded around 1992, and NCI (Numismatic Certification Institute), which folded around 1988. Whether deserved or not, this creates an aura of unreliability over all of its data.</b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b>Oh.. and this.. the second guy down...</b></p><p><b><a href="http://www.icgcoin.com/TheTeam/tabid/505/Default.aspx" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.icgcoin.com/TheTeam/tabid/505/Default.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.icgcoin.com/TheTeam/tabid/505/Default.aspx</a></b>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="NG4, post: 1379765, member: 35878"]I was eyeballing a coin and was trying determine it's grade from the shoddy seller pics. I could see that it was slabbed by INS.. apparently out of business. [TABLE="width: 97%"] [TR] [TD="class: ftalternatingbaroff, width: 99%, bgcolor: #CED0DA, align: right"][TABLE="width: 100%"] [TR] [TD="colspan: 2"][COLOR=black][FONT=Arial][SIZE=1][B]INS (International Numismatic Society Authentication Bureau) Little known service based in Washington DC. Active beginning in the mid 70's it specialized in Non-US coins at a time when only ANACS would certify Non-US coins and no one else would grade them. INS actually began grading coins before ANACS making it the first grading firm. Once they began grading the number of US coins submitted rose greatly and the number of “international” coins dropped to a miniscule percentage of those submitted. This company had a very low profile and most people didn’t know it existed even while they were in operation.. They used a certificate back in the 70's and 80's. They announced in Jan 1989 that they would start using slabs Jan 27th 1989. [/B][/SIZE] [/FONT][/COLOR][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] So.. since mine is slabbed.. it must have been circa.post 1989. Does anyone remember this TPG and if they were a decent grader? This post is just for my own curiousity...since I already bought the coin. I will prolly crack it out of it's slab when I get ready to send a bunch for grading. Maybe. It's my understanding that if you have a graded coin from a TPG that tends to grade upwards of what it's really worth... you might be better off sending it w/o the grading so as to not influence the new grade. Sound reasonable? This also from Google... [B]The Greysheet's biggest weakness is that it ignores the current state of the grading services. It ranks some of the services in terms of how the market values coins in their slabs. But it fails to rank SEGS, ACG, and NTC, three grading services that have a significant market presence. And it ranks two grading service with virtually no market presence, INS (International Numismatic Society Authentication Bureau), which folded around 1992, and NCI (Numismatic Certification Institute), which folded around 1988. Whether deserved or not, this creates an aura of unreliability over all of its data. Oh.. and this.. the second guy down... [URL]http://www.icgcoin.com/TheTeam/tabid/505/Default.aspx[/URL][/B][/QUOTE]
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