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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Insider, post: 8359440, member: 24314&quot;]BadThad, posted: <span style="color: #00b300">&quot;You&#039;re overthinking it, </span><b><i><span style="color: #ff0000">it&#039;s simple</span></i></b><span style="color: #00b300"> and also applies to</span> <span style="color: #b30000">to</span><span style="color: #5900b3">ni</span><span style="color: #b300b3">ng</span>.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p><i>I&#039;m not overthinking anything.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />&nbsp; I just added a bunch of nonsense <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie12" alt="o_O" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> to make a point.&nbsp; <b>ALL CONSERVATION </b>is some form of cleaning, repairing. replacing, surface alteration, etc.&nbsp; Thus we are in 100% agreement -<b> <span style="color: #ff0000">it&#039;s simple.</span></b>&nbsp;&nbsp; However, your example of toning is <b>NOT</b> THE SAME AT ALL.&nbsp; <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></i></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #00b300">&quot;A coin is either considered market acceptable or not - regardless what you call about the journey there. </span></p><p><span style="color: #00b300"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><i>&quot;Market acceptability&quot; is a TPGS <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie81" alt=":shifty:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> crutch to cover our butts because oxidation is either 100% natural (no matter how long it took) or not natural.&nbsp; Much of the time it is hard to know which it actually is. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie57" alt=":jawdrop:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> The same cannot be said for conservation because in many cases of proper conservation the coin looks 100% natural as if it were never touched. So it is either CLEANED or NOT.&nbsp; Just because some cleaned coins are &quot;market <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie81" alt=":shifty:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> acceptable&quot; does not indicate they are not cleaned BECAUSE THE EVIDENCE THAT THEY HAVE BEEN CLEANED IS VISIBLE! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie85" alt=":smuggrin:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></i></span></p><p><span style="color: #00b300"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #00b300">That is why I much prefer to use the terms &quot;cleaned&quot; for not market acceptable and &quot;conserved&quot; for a market acceptable coin. It&#039;s a simple matter of colloquial nomenclature for convenience in discussion</span>.</p><p><br /></p><p><i>You are free to use any words you wish.&nbsp; Just understand that the conserved coin has been altered - most often by a simple, undetectable cleaning.</i> </p><p><br /></p><p><i><b><span style="color: #ff0000">It&#039;s simple.</span></b></i></p><p><i><b><span style="color: #ff0000"><br /></span></b></i></p><p><i><span style="color: #000000">As for the 1955-S 1c you asked me about... There is no way to determine the answer as you&#039;ll get opinions one way or the other by every famous, knowledgeable, professional numismatist, copper collector/dealer, etc.&nbsp; </span></i></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><i>But I will not duck an honest question.&nbsp; </i></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><i><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">I do not like the two-toned coin and would not keep it.&nbsp; It looks chemically treated; however, (thanks for tipping it in the light) if it came into the grading room </span></i><span style="color: #00b300">I should give it</span> <span style="color: #00b300">a</span><b><span style="color: #00b300"> high, straight, </span><span style="color: #ff8000">R</span><span style="color: #b35900">B</span><span style="color: #00b300"> grade.</span></b><span style="color: #ff0000"><b>&nbsp; <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie14" alt=":angelic:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></b></span>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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