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<p>[QUOTE="GoldFinger1969, post: 2102460, member: 73489"]Agreed....but if there are 2 kinds of wear, only 1 is the dividing line between MS and AU.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The TPGs agree with it. Bowers and Akers have signed on to the grades for many prestigious collections, coins, and slabbed product.</p><p><br /></p><p>If you have your way, then a ton of coins are going from MS to AU....we need grades all the way from AU-50 to AU-59 in 1 grade increments. You're still gonna have the entire 10 grade levels (AU-50, AU-51, AU-52, etc.) swamped by tons of coins such that it will be difficult to tell AU-55's or AU-58's apart. You really will need the "+" and "*" designations.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Is this more or less ridiculous than re-classifying several million coins from MS to AU ?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>In theory, yeah. But theory and practice are totally different.</p><p><br /></p><p><b><u>You'd have to FORCE the entire AU-quality of formerly MS-graded coins down to AU...true MS coins will now sell for even more, but the AU's will bring down their former MS pricing levels.</u></b></p><p><br /></p><p><b><span style="color: #0000ff">In theory.</span></b></p><p><br /></p><p>I don't think that would or could happen but even if you could magically make it happen, I'm not sure it's necessary. I think worrying about wear on the high points of some soft-metal coins is splitting hairs. We may not like the way the hairs have been split, but it's done and I think even GD would think it's not going back.</p><p><br /></p><p><b><u><span style="color: #00b359">Let's concentrate on more accurate grading given CURRENT rules and getting rid of counterfeiters, coin doctoring, etc.</span></u></b>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GoldFinger1969, post: 2102460, member: 73489"]Agreed....but if there are 2 kinds of wear, only 1 is the dividing line between MS and AU. The TPGs agree with it. Bowers and Akers have signed on to the grades for many prestigious collections, coins, and slabbed product. If you have your way, then a ton of coins are going from MS to AU....we need grades all the way from AU-50 to AU-59 in 1 grade increments. You're still gonna have the entire 10 grade levels (AU-50, AU-51, AU-52, etc.) swamped by tons of coins such that it will be difficult to tell AU-55's or AU-58's apart. You really will need the "+" and "*" designations. Is this more or less ridiculous than re-classifying several million coins from MS to AU ? In theory, yeah. But theory and practice are totally different. [B][U]You'd have to FORCE the entire AU-quality of formerly MS-graded coins down to AU...true MS coins will now sell for even more, but the AU's will bring down their former MS pricing levels.[/U][/B] [B][COLOR=#0000ff]In theory.[/COLOR][/B] I don't think that would or could happen but even if you could magically make it happen, I'm not sure it's necessary. I think worrying about wear on the high points of some soft-metal coins is splitting hairs. We may not like the way the hairs have been split, but it's done and I think even GD would think it's not going back. [B][U][COLOR=#00b359]Let's concentrate on more accurate grading given CURRENT rules and getting rid of counterfeiters, coin doctoring, etc.[/COLOR][/U][/B][/QUOTE]
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