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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Lehigh96, post: 2101196, member: 15309&quot;]So is it fair to say that you agree with the TPG application of market grading principles with regards to high point friction as it pertains to luster grazes and &quot;roll/bag friction&quot; of Saint Gaudens double eagles?&nbsp; If so, do you also agree with their application of such standards to other series, specifically, Standing Liberty Quarters?</p><p><br /></p><p>Obviously I agree with the reasonable application of market grading coins with high point friction by the TPGs.&nbsp; The problem with that sentence is the word reasonable.&nbsp; It means different things to different people.&nbsp; Doug is only comfortable with the market grading of luster grazes, and finds the market grading of &quot;roll/bag friction&quot; as an egregious expansion of market grading.&nbsp; His argument that luster grazes and &quot;roll/bag friction&quot; is completely flawed however.&nbsp; Both are created by the same process, coin to coin contact in a sliding motion.</p><p><br /></p><p>It is really not incumbent upon me to make his argument for him, but his OPINION does have some merit.&nbsp; The problem with &quot;roll/bag friction&quot; is the degree of subjectivity inherent in identifying such examples.&nbsp; While it is very difficult to mistakenly grade a coin with &quot;circulation wear&quot; as uncirculated because of luster grazes, it becomes much easier to do so with a coin that suffers from &quot;roll/bag friction.&quot;&nbsp; The reason for this is because the design of the coins that suffer from &quot;roll/bag friction&quot; do so because an area of the design is higher than the rest of the coin and will always suffer friction first, despite the cause of the friction.&nbsp; Coin to coin contact will impart friction on the coin in the exact same place that a human finger will, whereas luster grazes can be found throughout the entire surface of the coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>In essence, those who share Doug&#039;s principles should object to the application of &quot;roll/bag friction&quot; on the basis of a &quot;slippery slope&quot; argument.&nbsp; After all, who amongst us hasn&#039;t seen a coin graded MS based on the application of &quot;roll/bag friction&quot; that upon further inspection, we thought was most certainly an AU coin with circulation wear?&nbsp; I know that I have.&nbsp; The difference between me and Doug is that I choose not to throw the baby out with the bath water.</p><p><br /></p><p>I don&#039;t even mind that Doug has the opinion that he has.&nbsp; I understand it, and think it is a reasonable position.&nbsp; What I mind is his unyielding persistence that HE IS RIGHT, and anyone who disagrees with him is WRONG.&nbsp; Coin grading is subjective, and each of us will have our own personal standards with respect to grading.&nbsp; But nobody is right or wrong, we simply have varying opinions based on personal preferences.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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