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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 2099698, member: 112&quot;]You&#039;re never gonna get it Paul, you&#039;re never gonna understand. Why not ? Because you, like so many others, want to believe that coins that are not MS, are MS - like that Saint above; that coins that are low MS grade, are high MS grade - like that Morgan above. That the obvious contradictions in PCGS grading standards, and the things that just aren&#039;t true - are not contradictions and are true.</p><p><br /></p><p>You also apparently don&#039;t understand the difference between wear and frost breaks, or their impact on grade. That Morgan above, yeah it has frost breaks, a lot of them. No, I do not see any wear on the coin (in the picture at least), but that many frost breaks, and in those locations, yeah they have a huge impact on the grade. And that coin is no more a 66 than I am. </p><p><br /></p><p>The Saint on the other hand doesn&#039;t have any frost breaks. Why ? In the first place it doesn&#039;t have any frost to even be broken. What it does have though is luster, and the luster is definitely broken on some of the high points, and it was broken by wear. Repeated contact, a repeated rubbing against some other object. Was the other object another coin ? It may well have been, but it doesn&#039;t matter what it was, it only matters that the wear, the breaks in the luster are there. And because of them the coin is relegated to AU status. And no, what the Saint has are not, as you call them, luster grazes. That is just plain old wear.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>On the contrary, it has everything to do with repetition. Do some coins have more pressure on them because of where they are located within a bag ? Yeah, of course they do. And yes, if there is repeated contact or movement between the coins touching each other, like what happens every time the bag is moved or disturbed, then that increased pressure matters a lot because it results in even more wear. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>No it doesn&#039;t make sense at all. The degree of severity for coin to coin friction is everything. A single contact, maybe even 2 or 3, might result in frost breaks, but not wear. Repeated contact however will result in wear for that is how wear comes to be, from repeated contact. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Well it be nice if what you just said was true but it isn&#039;t. There is a difference between weak strike and wear because of the texture and color. But there is no difference between wear that occurs from bag friction and wear that occurs between coins in a cashier&#039;s drawer - it is exactly the same and in both cases caused by coins rubbing against each other repeatedly. And no, bag friction does not have a glossy appearance, nor does it roll when titled under a light. That part simple is not true.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>And that is exactly the problem because bag friction is not the same as what you call a luster graze, it&#039;s no where near the same. The frost breaks on that Morgan above were caused by bag friction. Do you think those black marks on the devices have a &quot;glossy appearance&quot; or that the luster in the fields in those locations &quot;will roll&quot; when tilted under a light ? I can assure you they will not !</p><p><br /></p><p>And the Saint above, where it has wear on the high points, that wear won&#039;t roll under a light either, it will instead show as dull flat spots because that is exactly what it is, dull flat spots, breaks in the luster caused by wear. And breaks in the luster are how you identify wear.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now we could go on and on but there is no point in doing so. You choose to believe and accept TPG grading practices. I do not because they are rife with inconsistencies, falsehoods, and contradictions. People claim that the TPGs are inconsistent, PCGS even more so than NGC. And they are right, the TPGs are inconsistent. Do you know why ? Because they can be nothing else when the standards they use are inconsistent.</p><p><br /></p><p>You have said many times that you do not accept my methods for grading coins. But you have also said many times that I am the most consistent grader you have ever seen, amazingly consistent even. Do you know why I am ? It&#039;s simple, because I use consistent grading standards.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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