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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2097267, member: 112"]LOL ! Really Paul ? </p><p><br /></p><p>I want everybody to know everything !! That's the problem, they don't because they don't read the book. If they did, they would see all of the glaring contradictions with their own eyes and I wouldn't have to point them out. </p><p><br /></p><p>Now if I remember correctly you are quoting and providing page numbers from the 1st edition of the PCGS book published in 1997, is that correct ? I am quoting from the 2nd edition of the PCGS book published in 2004. And the page numbers are different in the two books. It would also seem that a bit more than just the page numbers are different.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now I'm going to provide 2 direct quotes from the book, and you please tell me how these two quotes do not contradict each other. </p><p><br /></p><p><i>AU58 - "There will be slight wear on the highest points of the coin. In some cases, 5x magnification is needed to notice this wear, and in sometimes it can be noticed by slowly tilting the coin in the light source."</i></p><p><br /></p><p>That comes from chapter 4 - titled PCGS Grading Standards, page 30, of the 2nd edition.</p><p><br /></p><p>In chapter 5 titled Elements of a Coins Grade, on page 48, it says - </p><p><br /></p><p><i>"If you need magnification to see the 'wear', it is either not wear or it is wear that is so slight as to not prevent the coin from grading Uncirculated."</i></p><p><br /></p><p>So on the one hand they are telling us that the amount of wear on a 58 coin is so slight that we might need 5x magnification to even see it. Then just a bit later they tell us that if we need magnification to see this slight wear, then it is not wear at all. If that is not a blatant contradiction, then I don't what would be.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2097267, member: 112"]LOL ! Really Paul ? I want everybody to know everything !! That's the problem, they don't because they don't read the book. If they did, they would see all of the glaring contradictions with their own eyes and I wouldn't have to point them out. Now if I remember correctly you are quoting and providing page numbers from the 1st edition of the PCGS book published in 1997, is that correct ? I am quoting from the 2nd edition of the PCGS book published in 2004. And the page numbers are different in the two books. It would also seem that a bit more than just the page numbers are different. Now I'm going to provide 2 direct quotes from the book, and you please tell me how these two quotes do not contradict each other. [I]AU58 - "There will be slight wear on the highest points of the coin. In some cases, 5x magnification is needed to notice this wear, and in sometimes it can be noticed by slowly tilting the coin in the light source."[/I] That comes from chapter 4 - titled PCGS Grading Standards, page 30, of the 2nd edition. In chapter 5 titled Elements of a Coins Grade, on page 48, it says - [I]"If you need magnification to see the 'wear', it is either not wear or it is wear that is so slight as to not prevent the coin from grading Uncirculated."[/I] So on the one hand they are telling us that the amount of wear on a 58 coin is so slight that we might need 5x magnification to even see it. Then just a bit later they tell us that if we need magnification to see this slight wear, then it is not wear at all. If that is not a blatant contradiction, then I don't what would be.[/QUOTE]
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