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<p>[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 1543865, member: 15309"]You have been claiming that the reason you think all coins showing wear are AU is because you are following the ANA standards. Now you are admitting that the ANA standards allow for coins with roll friction to be considered MS. That means that you are not following any published grading standard and that both you and Doug simply have a personal opinion on the matter. You are entitled to that opinion, but you are not entitled to present it as part of the ANA grading standards, which it is not. </p><p><br /></p><p>What really bothers me is that in the early part of this thread in post #62 I specifically asked how the ANA standards address roll friction. Nobody responded so I assumed based on the posts made by you and others that any wear would prevent an MS grade based on the ANA standards. This is evidenced in my post #99 which I incorrectly state that the ANA standards don't take roll friction into account. It wasn't until I found a two year old post made by Doug in a different thread that the truth came out. That means that one of the following scenarios occurred:</p><p><br /></p><p>1) You knew that the ANA standards allowed for roll friction, but let me think otherwise because it bolstered your opinion.</p><p>2) You did not know that the ANA standards allowed for roll friction.</p><p><br /></p><p>Since you follow the ANA grading standards, I will assume you have a copy. Can you please look up roll friction in the index and tell us what it says specifically.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>You need to read the entire written grading standards. Picking out one page to proclaim it a contradiction is nothing more than contextomy.</p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>We don't need to discuss NGC's, they are essentially identical to those of PCGS.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 1543865, member: 15309"]You have been claiming that the reason you think all coins showing wear are AU is because you are following the ANA standards. Now you are admitting that the ANA standards allow for coins with roll friction to be considered MS. That means that you are not following any published grading standard and that both you and Doug simply have a personal opinion on the matter. You are entitled to that opinion, but you are not entitled to present it as part of the ANA grading standards, which it is not. What really bothers me is that in the early part of this thread in post #62 I specifically asked how the ANA standards address roll friction. Nobody responded so I assumed based on the posts made by you and others that any wear would prevent an MS grade based on the ANA standards. This is evidenced in my post #99 which I incorrectly state that the ANA standards don't take roll friction into account. It wasn't until I found a two year old post made by Doug in a different thread that the truth came out. That means that one of the following scenarios occurred: 1) You knew that the ANA standards allowed for roll friction, but let me think otherwise because it bolstered your opinion. 2) You did not know that the ANA standards allowed for roll friction. Since you follow the ANA grading standards, I will assume you have a copy. Can you please look up roll friction in the index and tell us what it says specifically. You need to read the entire written grading standards. Picking out one page to proclaim it a contradiction is nothing more than contextomy. We don't need to discuss NGC's, they are essentially identical to those of PCGS.[/QUOTE]
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