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<p>[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 1541724, member: 15309"]I will agree that it is possible to obtain trace high point wear from coins rubbing together in a pocket if you admit that it is impossible that almost every Saint spent time in someones pocket before being plucked from circulation an preserved for 80-100 years before grading.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The exclusions are absolutely necessary. If you collected Saints, you would probably agree. I have a feeling that you don't collect any of the series that are affected by the roll friction issue? </p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>PCGS still includes that same chart in their current book of standards. And it is applicable and accurate for most series. However, they also explain very clearly in their book that roll friction is an exception to those rules. I have no idea why you keep claiming that PCGS used the ANA's grading standards prior to 1997. PCGS had used their own grading standard since their inception in 1986. Some of their standards are based upon the foundation provided by the existing ANA standards. However, there are some very key differences between the market grading standards employed by the PCGS & NGC and the ANA standards, forgiving roll friction wear among them. The only significance of 1997 is that is when they published their standards. NGC has never published their standards. Are you going to claim that NGC uses the ANA's grading standards as well?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 1541724, member: 15309"]I will agree that it is possible to obtain trace high point wear from coins rubbing together in a pocket if you admit that it is impossible that almost every Saint spent time in someones pocket before being plucked from circulation an preserved for 80-100 years before grading. The exclusions are absolutely necessary. If you collected Saints, you would probably agree. I have a feeling that you don't collect any of the series that are affected by the roll friction issue? PCGS still includes that same chart in their current book of standards. And it is applicable and accurate for most series. However, they also explain very clearly in their book that roll friction is an exception to those rules. I have no idea why you keep claiming that PCGS used the ANA's grading standards prior to 1997. PCGS had used their own grading standard since their inception in 1986. Some of their standards are based upon the foundation provided by the existing ANA standards. However, there are some very key differences between the market grading standards employed by the PCGS & NGC and the ANA standards, forgiving roll friction wear among them. The only significance of 1997 is that is when they published their standards. NGC has never published their standards. Are you going to claim that NGC uses the ANA's grading standards as well?[/QUOTE]
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