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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Lehigh96, post: 1541222, member: 15309&quot;]While they can&#039;t be 100% certain in regards to discerning roll friction from circulation wear, it is not a complete guess.&nbsp; Here is a quote from PCGS on the subject of roll friction on Saints:</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>You find it contradictory because you disagree with it.&nbsp; I find it completely acceptable for specific series of coins which are prone to roll friction and don&#039;t think it hurts their credibility at all.&nbsp; Regarding the chart, I already told you that you need to read the entire book and not simply look at the chart.&nbsp; If you read the book from cover to cover, you would understand clearly that there are reasons why they grade coins with high point friction as uncirculated.&nbsp; It is repeated several times throughout the book despite it&#039;s absence from the chart.&nbsp; Personally, I have never even used the general chart.&nbsp; When seeking grading advice from that book, I consult the verbiage for each specific series.&nbsp; I know that you would like to apply the same grading standard across every series of coins including every alloy but that is completely opposite of the market grading philosophy employed by PCGS. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I don&#039;t believe they used the ANA standards until 1997.&nbsp; If that were true, you would not be able to find MS Saints in old PCGS holders and I know that I have seen them in auction listings.&nbsp; Just because they didn&#039;t publish their standards until 1997 doesn&#039;t mean by default that they used the ANA standards.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I think I have addressed this point several times during the course of this thread.&nbsp; If they have reason to believe that the wear is caused by roll friction and they grade the coin MS, I am okay with a few coins with circulation wear ending up in MS holders during the process.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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