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<p>[QUOTE="Leadfoot, post: 1540519, member: 2972"]If you expect to understand TPG grading of coins, you will have to set aside your preconceptions as to what's "RIGHT" and what's "WRONG", but rather observe and try and figure out what "IS" and "IS NOT" -- and forget about "consistency" across grading standards with different types of coins, because you will not find it across series in TPG graded coins. Heck, even within a series it's not applied consistency by the TPGs (for example, take a look at this recent thread: <a href="http://www.cointalk.com/t214263/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.cointalk.com/t214263/">http://www.cointalk.com/t214263/</a> ).</p><p><br /></p><p>And FWIW, St. Gaudens DO follow a strict grading system in practice, but it is subjective in nature, particularly within the bounds of TPG grading as it applies to MS/AU coins. As compared with ANA standards, TPGs are much more nuanced in nature -- which is related to the difference between technical (ANA) and market (TPG) grading -- and this nuanced nature is part of the argument for those who prefer a more objective view of grading (ANA).</p><p><br /></p><p>Using your example, and with respect to TPGs, sometimes 2+2=4 and other times 2+2=5. The sooner you get past your aversion to this the sooner you will truly understand TPG grading and be able to predict it with some level of accuracy.</p><p><br /></p><p>IMO and respectfully submitted...Mike</p><p><br /></p><p>p.s. Mark, You are welcome. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Leadfoot, post: 1540519, member: 2972"]If you expect to understand TPG grading of coins, you will have to set aside your preconceptions as to what's "RIGHT" and what's "WRONG", but rather observe and try and figure out what "IS" and "IS NOT" -- and forget about "consistency" across grading standards with different types of coins, because you will not find it across series in TPG graded coins. Heck, even within a series it's not applied consistency by the TPGs (for example, take a look at this recent thread: [url]http://www.cointalk.com/t214263/[/url] ). And FWIW, St. Gaudens DO follow a strict grading system in practice, but it is subjective in nature, particularly within the bounds of TPG grading as it applies to MS/AU coins. As compared with ANA standards, TPGs are much more nuanced in nature -- which is related to the difference between technical (ANA) and market (TPG) grading -- and this nuanced nature is part of the argument for those who prefer a more objective view of grading (ANA). Using your example, and with respect to TPGs, sometimes 2+2=4 and other times 2+2=5. The sooner you get past your aversion to this the sooner you will truly understand TPG grading and be able to predict it with some level of accuracy. IMO and respectfully submitted...Mike p.s. Mark, You are welcome. :)[/QUOTE]
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