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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;BUncirculated, post: 1539255, member: 29581&quot;]But if every Saint has signs of wear, even on the high points, regardless of how that wear was caused, is it right for the TPGs to give an MS grade? Doesn&#039;t that detract from their goal of wanting the collecting community to accept their service as reputable? How many coins have you seen in slabs, whether you own them or not, that have signs of wear but they were slide into the MS range anyway? </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>My point is the ANA standards are older than the TPGs and they were considered the authority of coin grading, and by many still are. </p><p><br /></p><p>Ever think why PCGS published their own grading standards? Because they want to create the market for certified coins. You can&#039;t possibly tell me that 64 Jefferson I mentioned before would actually sell for the $600 price tag you have on it but for the fact it&#039;s in an TPG slab with a 67 on the label. How do you think you could sell that coin for raw? Think you could get $600 for it?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Touche! You know it as well. So let&#039;s agree that until they can be, regardless of what type of friction caused the wear, it&#039;s still wear, and should be deemed as circulated. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>It&#039;s not that I&#039;m uncomfortable with this coin being in an MS holder, it&#039;s that the TPG ignored the fact that it&#039;s still wear, and it shouldn&#039;t be in an MS holder.</p><p><br /></p><p>As far as AT and NT coins go, I am quite certain, and will give you this one, that there are AT coins with grades in TPG holders and NT coins that were bagged. Again this goes to the degree of certainty, and the ability of the graders to be able to distinguish the difference. Since they can&#039;t on AT and NT, how can anyone expect them to do the same with roll friction and pocket friction?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I agree, grading is subjective, even before the TPGs it was subjective, and long after we&#039;re gone, it will still be subjective. An opinion that will vary from one person to the next.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Doug has never, nor would he bash me for my lack of knowledge and experience with this, or any series. </p><p>&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Don&#039;t go getting all Dr. Phil on me, this is a debate, and good for change between us, about the grading standards used.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Even though I am not knowledgeable about the gold coinage, but correct me if I&#039;m wrong, doesn&#039;t, and didn&#039;t the Mint add alloys to the gold to give it the strength it needs to withstand the pressures of being struck?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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