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<p>[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 1536857, member: 15309"]As Ruben already stated, it is treated as an abrasion, not wear. It makes perfect sense that roll friction could limit the grade of a coin at high mint state grades yet not be treated as wear.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>This is 100% untrue. The reason they do it is because they market grade coins and the difference between a high grade mint state coin with roll friction and an actual AU is coin is obvious. The TPG's and everyone else recognize that these coins are not equal and should not be valued the same.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I am okay with some circulated coins ending up in MS holders in order to ensure that great coins with roll friction are market graded accurately. To be clear, it is your opinion that wear is wear, no matter how it got there. Your opinion is not what is accepted by the numismatic society and to say that anybody who disagrees with you lacks common sense is arrogant to say the least.</p><p><br /></p><p>BTW, what grade would you assign this Saint?</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Roll%20Friction/Saint1908PCGS_zps2ada6cd2.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Roll%20Friction/Saint1908PCGSleg_zps9c4ddf49.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 1536857, member: 15309"]As Ruben already stated, it is treated as an abrasion, not wear. It makes perfect sense that roll friction could limit the grade of a coin at high mint state grades yet not be treated as wear. This is 100% untrue. The reason they do it is because they market grade coins and the difference between a high grade mint state coin with roll friction and an actual AU is coin is obvious. The TPG's and everyone else recognize that these coins are not equal and should not be valued the same. I am okay with some circulated coins ending up in MS holders in order to ensure that great coins with roll friction are market graded accurately. To be clear, it is your opinion that wear is wear, no matter how it got there. Your opinion is not what is accepted by the numismatic society and to say that anybody who disagrees with you lacks common sense is arrogant to say the least. BTW, what grade would you assign this Saint? [IMG]http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Roll%20Friction/Saint1908PCGS_zps2ada6cd2.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Roll%20Friction/Saint1908PCGSleg_zps9c4ddf49.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
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