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<p>[QUOTE="JPeace$, post: 2314027, member: 42727"]Some very excellent points on both sides. I'm still on the fence. I clearly understand the "future harm" scenario, as I believe it to be real concern. But, the mintages are so low, the impact would be low. That doesn't help the few that do get fooled/taken by these pieces though. I also understand the fact that with a little research, you'll find these to be fantasy pieces. The 1964 fantasy Peace dollar is the most concerning to me since there we some actually struck in Denver. Whether they were all recaptured by the mint isn't 100% conclusive in my mind. Records show yes, but I question the accuracy and think it's possible the Denver Mint Director was doing a little CYA. But I digress.</p><p><br /></p><p>I own two DC fantasy pieces: 1965 Peace Dollar & 1916 Barber Half (I also own a couple of his treasure cobs). They are both quite exquisite. Since these dates were never issued by the US Mint, I don't categorize them as counterfeit, but I recognize the confusion they will cause for non collectors/numismatists. If these truly are classified as counterfeit's, than why hasn't the government stepped in and shut it down? I would think any "counterfeiting" no matter how small would be of major concern to the secret service, mints, commerce department, treasury et al.</p><p><br /></p><p>I wish he had included "fantasy" or "DCopy" somewhere discretely on these fantasy pieces. It could have been done well enough as not to jeopardize the beauty of the piece and protect the uneducated. Or he could have made a small change to the design so they could be easily distinguished from the originals (other than date). The question then becomes, had he done this, would they be as sought after? I suspect the answer is no. And that in itself leads to another question. Were these produced only to gain publicity for his work and thus improve his overall monetary bottom line, without consideration for the harmful impact to the hobby? I have no idea to the true motivation. </p><p><br /></p><p>Even after typing this, re-reading it, editing it, re-reading it, I'm still torn. I'm looking forward to reading more opinions in this thread.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="JPeace$, post: 2314027, member: 42727"]Some very excellent points on both sides. I'm still on the fence. I clearly understand the "future harm" scenario, as I believe it to be real concern. But, the mintages are so low, the impact would be low. That doesn't help the few that do get fooled/taken by these pieces though. I also understand the fact that with a little research, you'll find these to be fantasy pieces. The 1964 fantasy Peace dollar is the most concerning to me since there we some actually struck in Denver. Whether they were all recaptured by the mint isn't 100% conclusive in my mind. Records show yes, but I question the accuracy and think it's possible the Denver Mint Director was doing a little CYA. But I digress. I own two DC fantasy pieces: 1965 Peace Dollar & 1916 Barber Half (I also own a couple of his treasure cobs). They are both quite exquisite. Since these dates were never issued by the US Mint, I don't categorize them as counterfeit, but I recognize the confusion they will cause for non collectors/numismatists. If these truly are classified as counterfeit's, than why hasn't the government stepped in and shut it down? I would think any "counterfeiting" no matter how small would be of major concern to the secret service, mints, commerce department, treasury et al. I wish he had included "fantasy" or "DCopy" somewhere discretely on these fantasy pieces. It could have been done well enough as not to jeopardize the beauty of the piece and protect the uneducated. Or he could have made a small change to the design so they could be easily distinguished from the originals (other than date). The question then becomes, had he done this, would they be as sought after? I suspect the answer is no. And that in itself leads to another question. Were these produced only to gain publicity for his work and thus improve his overall monetary bottom line, without consideration for the harmful impact to the hobby? I have no idea to the true motivation. Even after typing this, re-reading it, editing it, re-reading it, I'm still torn. I'm looking forward to reading more opinions in this thread.[/QUOTE]
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