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<p>[QUOTE="19Lyds, post: 2313647, member: 15929"]Hmmm. I wonder if the "note" collectors bashed Boggs the same way??</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]466612[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>All hand drawn and used in trade.</p><p><br /></p><p>But, whatever. Daniel has a collector base. His works are readily known with even ANACS encapsulating them.</p><p><br /></p><p>To the untrained eye, sure, soimeo0ne could get fooled but as soon as they marched into a dealer to collect their rewards, there eye's would be opened. Sorry folks, but that's not an authentic Stradivarious.</p><p><br /></p><p>To me, this is a rather novel idea that doesn't change the base metal value of the coin and its value in the everyday market.</p><p><br /></p><p>For example, when a quarter dollar coin gets worn down to PO-1 state, isn;t it still an authentic US Quarter? Worth 25 cents at the 7-11?</p><p>The same is true of a dime or half dollar or even a dollar coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>Just because he overstrikes thes US Mint assayed metal rounds with a non-existent date doesn't really mean anything. No different than running a cent through one of those elongated presses except that the elongated press changes the entire design into a collectible token.</p><p><br /></p><p>Sure, folks get all up in arms about the what if's and how this will destroy the coin collecting market or some poor sap will be ripped off for thousands of dollars being told that they are purchasing a "rare" and valuable coin. But........the truth is, the current market is filled with actual rip offs already such as "First Strike" and "Early Release" and this or that all backed up by MS/PR70 blah blah blah.</p><p><br /></p><p>Hell, I even had myself a coin that the dealer sold me in my early 20's for $125 that was supposed to escalate in price. I specifically asked for something that had promise. Of course, it never did.</p><p><br /></p><p>The point being, and it's been shown on these very forums countless times, if you don't do some research with paid professionals AND you're going to sink thousands into it, then you're just a fool. Mama, Daddy, Gramma, Gandpa? None are immune to doing something really stupid.</p><p><br /></p><p>The other point is that with just a tiny bit of effort in todays Internet Rich Environment (someone did mention "bidiots" as in eBay right?) Daniel Carr has each and every one of his products well documented and thanks to these threads which show up with some regularity on Coin Talks, NCG, and the CU Boards, identifying his work and the impetus behind it could be accomplished by a 5 year old. After all, if someone offers you a super rare coin for a fool's price because they are down on their luck and really need the cash, wouldn't YOU want to validate it's rarity?</p><p><br /></p><p>Anybody ever buy pots and pans out of the trunk of somebodies car?</p><p><br /></p><p>There are folks out their that are just plain ignorant. They know it yet do nothing about it. For those folks, there is absolutely NOTHING you can do to protect them regardless of how badly you want to save them from themselves.</p><p><br /></p><p>I have quite a few of DC's coins. Not everyone, mind you, but all those that I am interested in. IKE's, Kennedy's, Washiongton's and the Good Ole 1964-D Peace Dollar.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="19Lyds, post: 2313647, member: 15929"]Hmmm. I wonder if the "note" collectors bashed Boggs the same way?? [ATTACH=full]466612[/ATTACH] All hand drawn and used in trade. But, whatever. Daniel has a collector base. His works are readily known with even ANACS encapsulating them. To the untrained eye, sure, soimeo0ne could get fooled but as soon as they marched into a dealer to collect their rewards, there eye's would be opened. Sorry folks, but that's not an authentic Stradivarious. To me, this is a rather novel idea that doesn't change the base metal value of the coin and its value in the everyday market. For example, when a quarter dollar coin gets worn down to PO-1 state, isn;t it still an authentic US Quarter? Worth 25 cents at the 7-11? The same is true of a dime or half dollar or even a dollar coin. Just because he overstrikes thes US Mint assayed metal rounds with a non-existent date doesn't really mean anything. No different than running a cent through one of those elongated presses except that the elongated press changes the entire design into a collectible token. Sure, folks get all up in arms about the what if's and how this will destroy the coin collecting market or some poor sap will be ripped off for thousands of dollars being told that they are purchasing a "rare" and valuable coin. But........the truth is, the current market is filled with actual rip offs already such as "First Strike" and "Early Release" and this or that all backed up by MS/PR70 blah blah blah. Hell, I even had myself a coin that the dealer sold me in my early 20's for $125 that was supposed to escalate in price. I specifically asked for something that had promise. Of course, it never did. The point being, and it's been shown on these very forums countless times, if you don't do some research with paid professionals AND you're going to sink thousands into it, then you're just a fool. Mama, Daddy, Gramma, Gandpa? None are immune to doing something really stupid. The other point is that with just a tiny bit of effort in todays Internet Rich Environment (someone did mention "bidiots" as in eBay right?) Daniel Carr has each and every one of his products well documented and thanks to these threads which show up with some regularity on Coin Talks, NCG, and the CU Boards, identifying his work and the impetus behind it could be accomplished by a 5 year old. After all, if someone offers you a super rare coin for a fool's price because they are down on their luck and really need the cash, wouldn't YOU want to validate it's rarity? Anybody ever buy pots and pans out of the trunk of somebodies car? There are folks out their that are just plain ignorant. They know it yet do nothing about it. For those folks, there is absolutely NOTHING you can do to protect them regardless of how badly you want to save them from themselves. I have quite a few of DC's coins. Not everyone, mind you, but all those that I am interested in. IKE's, Kennedy's, Washiongton's and the Good Ole 1964-D Peace Dollar.[/QUOTE]
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