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<p>[QUOTE="Drusus, post: 220122, member: 6370"]<span style="color: black">On the example I posted, its so poorly done that the fake patina is not covering the original surface on the edges, you can clearly see the change. With that coin...it pretty much IS a fake as there is no part of the original coin design remaining. Almost all coins that look like this (etched) are tooled and not faked from scratch. You can buy an original worn slug like this for extremely cheap. I have quite a few sitting around with just a faint outline of detail from uncleaned lots. There may be just enough of the outline of the the original minting to give you a clue as to what coin it was and where to etch...It just makes it easier to etch a coin like this then to etch something from scratch on a brand new flan...Making a new flan isnt the hardest thing in the world to do, but why do it when you may have 5 REAL ancient slugs sitting around. Plus you have the advantage of being able to be partially telling the truth when you buy it...it IS a real ancient coin...and if tested the metal will check out and to be honest...weights fluctuate with ancient coins, they arent near as exact as they are today. Most of these people, if not all, are etching on already existing slugs, they do not make new flans to etch on. </span></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: black">Also...the coin is without doubt etched not struck.</span></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: black">I have watched on ebay as a person will buy a lot of coins in poor shape (mostly larger As or Sestertius)...then...those coins will come up for sale but they will be much more detailed. There are people out there tracking this. I saw a case where a guy was selling an Antoninus Pius coin with good detail on ebay...but if you look at what he bought...you see that he bought the same Antoninus Pius coin (or a lot of hard to identify large roman coins). Its obvious the guy (and he isnt the only one) is buying old worn coins and etching detail into them to resale for a huge profit. One just needs to be careful...</span></p><p> </p><p>I posted this one because although it is a glaringly tooled coin...even well tooled coins will often have the same 'feel' to it...like the details around quite as refined an delicate...hair might look wrong, fields are flat and completely smooth....etc...[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Drusus, post: 220122, member: 6370"][COLOR=black]On the example I posted, its so poorly done that the fake patina is not covering the original surface on the edges, you can clearly see the change. With that coin...it pretty much IS a fake as there is no part of the original coin design remaining. Almost all coins that look like this (etched) are tooled and not faked from scratch. You can buy an original worn slug like this for extremely cheap. I have quite a few sitting around with just a faint outline of detail from uncleaned lots. There may be just enough of the outline of the the original minting to give you a clue as to what coin it was and where to etch...It just makes it easier to etch a coin like this then to etch something from scratch on a brand new flan...Making a new flan isnt the hardest thing in the world to do, but why do it when you may have 5 REAL ancient slugs sitting around. Plus you have the advantage of being able to be partially telling the truth when you buy it...it IS a real ancient coin...and if tested the metal will check out and to be honest...weights fluctuate with ancient coins, they arent near as exact as they are today. Most of these people, if not all, are etching on already existing slugs, they do not make new flans to etch on. [/COLOR] [COLOR=black]Also...the coin is without doubt etched not struck.[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]I have watched on ebay as a person will buy a lot of coins in poor shape (mostly larger As or Sestertius)...then...those coins will come up for sale but they will be much more detailed. There are people out there tracking this. I saw a case where a guy was selling an Antoninus Pius coin with good detail on ebay...but if you look at what he bought...you see that he bought the same Antoninus Pius coin (or a lot of hard to identify large roman coins). Its obvious the guy (and he isnt the only one) is buying old worn coins and etching detail into them to resale for a huge profit. One just needs to be careful...[/COLOR] I posted this one because although it is a glaringly tooled coin...even well tooled coins will often have the same 'feel' to it...like the details around quite as refined an delicate...hair might look wrong, fields are flat and completely smooth....etc...[/QUOTE]
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