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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 3112228, member: 19463"]I tend not to use the term patina for silver which just tones but reserve patina for the heavier surface colors of bronzes (green and others). Bronzes will also tone if not protected by a patina and that toning can be hastened chemically.</p><p>This dupondius of Nero has a green patina:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]789898[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>This one has toned down from the shiny yellow brass it once was but I do not call it a patina ('river' or other). Both coins started the same color. I expect the tone of the second to darken in the next few centuries while the patina of the first should change less due to the protective layer of the patina. Will I be right? Ask me again in 500 years.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]789899[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Below are two denarii of Hadrian. With no further human intervention, I would expect them to be close to the same tone by that time. I have a few coins that are a bit darker now than they were 50 years ago but my thoughts about 500 years are purely speculative. Could we make that 500 years be 500 days? Possibly. Should we?</p><p>[ATTACH=full]789911[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]789912[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>It all of a sudden struck me that if TIF is guilty of a toning infraction for leaving a coin out in bad conditions, in bad envelopes or not moving to Arizona then she is also a tone-felon by interfering with the natural order of things by storing a coin in a way that slows progressive darkening and remaining in humidity heaven. If everything is bad then nothing is bad so we must accept her plea of innocence by reason of the ephemeral nature of science.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 3112228, member: 19463"]I tend not to use the term patina for silver which just tones but reserve patina for the heavier surface colors of bronzes (green and others). Bronzes will also tone if not protected by a patina and that toning can be hastened chemically. This dupondius of Nero has a green patina: [ATTACH=full]789898[/ATTACH] This one has toned down from the shiny yellow brass it once was but I do not call it a patina ('river' or other). Both coins started the same color. I expect the tone of the second to darken in the next few centuries while the patina of the first should change less due to the protective layer of the patina. Will I be right? Ask me again in 500 years. [ATTACH=full]789899[/ATTACH] Below are two denarii of Hadrian. With no further human intervention, I would expect them to be close to the same tone by that time. I have a few coins that are a bit darker now than they were 50 years ago but my thoughts about 500 years are purely speculative. Could we make that 500 years be 500 days? Possibly. Should we? [ATTACH=full]789911[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]789912[/ATTACH] It all of a sudden struck me that if TIF is guilty of a toning infraction for leaving a coin out in bad conditions, in bad envelopes or not moving to Arizona then she is also a tone-felon by interfering with the natural order of things by storing a coin in a way that slows progressive darkening and remaining in humidity heaven. If everything is bad then nothing is bad so we must accept her plea of innocence by reason of the ephemeral nature of science.[/QUOTE]
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