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<p>[QUOTE="Roman Collector, post: 3614376, member: 75937"]Here's the coin in question. I posted it in a <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/julia-paula-alexandrian-tetradrachm.342966/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/julia-paula-alexandrian-tetradrachm.342966/">thread last night</a>:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]968162[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>The more I think about this tetradrachm, the more it bothers me. I was the successful bidder on it in Frank's latest auction (<a href="https://www.biddr.ch/auctions/fsrcoin/browse?a=627&l=648122" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.biddr.ch/auctions/fsrcoin/browse?a=627&l=648122" rel="nofollow">lot 262</a>). It was previously up for sale at Pegasi (auction XXXIX, <a href="http://www.pegasionline.com/buybid.asp?sale=50&cat=912" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.pegasionline.com/buybid.asp?sale=50&cat=912" rel="nofollow">lot 370</a>; see also <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5429221" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5429221" rel="nofollow">acsearchinfo</a>), where it was noted to be a variety of Köln 2365 and a variety of Dattari 4172. Pegasi notes "ex PNC collection," which is a provenance I don't recognize.</p><p><br /></p><p>I do not have Köln or Dattari, but I do have Sear and I looked it up there to find this listing:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]968163[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Sear notes the eagle is standing facing and mine looks more like it's advancing right. Sear also notes LΔ in the upper left field, whereas on mine, the regnal year is in the lower right field. Sear makes no mention of a palm branch behind the eagle's head. He cites BMC Greek 1533. Sear often uses the British Museum collection as a reference, so I simply assumed he was referencing the exemplar there. Here's the listing in BMC Greek:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]968164[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>So, I searched out the <a href="https://www.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/collection_object_details.aspx?objectId=1308283&partId=1&searchText=Paula+1533&page=1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/collection_object_details.aspx?objectId=1308283&partId=1&searchText=Paula+1533&page=1" rel="nofollow">example in the British Museum</a> at their website. This is the coin:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]968165[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>It's very different from mine in style. The obverse inscription is rendered with large, crowded letters. Julia Paula's hairstyle is very different and resembles that of many of her imperial denarii. The eagle takes up most of the surface area of the reverse and is facing with head turned right. There is no palm behind the eagle's head.</p><p><br /></p><p>That's not necessarily a red flag, as you know, because my coin may simply be a variety cut by a different die-engraver.</p><p><br /></p><p>But the obverse portrait and the reverse of the "Julia Paula" resemble the features of a year 15 tetradrachm of Salonina I have in my collection too closely for comfort:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]968170[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's my new purchase again, the ex FSR, ex Pegasi one:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]968162[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Tooled from a Salonina tetradrachm? This coin does not appear when I <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/search.php" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/search.php" rel="nofollow">search Forum's fake coin reports</a>. I'm hampered by my ability to compare the coin to others. Apart from the British Museum example, I am unable to find any other specimens online -- real or fake.</p><p><br /></p><p>I need help from Alexandrian experts. Thanks![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Roman Collector, post: 3614376, member: 75937"]Here's the coin in question. I posted it in a [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/julia-paula-alexandrian-tetradrachm.342966/']thread last night[/URL]: [ATTACH=full]968162[/ATTACH] The more I think about this tetradrachm, the more it bothers me. I was the successful bidder on it in Frank's latest auction ([URL='https://www.biddr.ch/auctions/fsrcoin/browse?a=627&l=648122']lot 262[/URL]). It was previously up for sale at Pegasi (auction XXXIX, [URL='http://www.pegasionline.com/buybid.asp?sale=50&cat=912']lot 370[/URL]; see also [URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5429221']acsearchinfo[/URL]), where it was noted to be a variety of Köln 2365 and a variety of Dattari 4172. Pegasi notes "ex PNC collection," which is a provenance I don't recognize. I do not have Köln or Dattari, but I do have Sear and I looked it up there to find this listing: [ATTACH=full]968163[/ATTACH] Sear notes the eagle is standing facing and mine looks more like it's advancing right. Sear also notes LΔ in the upper left field, whereas on mine, the regnal year is in the lower right field. Sear makes no mention of a palm branch behind the eagle's head. He cites BMC Greek 1533. Sear often uses the British Museum collection as a reference, so I simply assumed he was referencing the exemplar there. Here's the listing in BMC Greek: [ATTACH=full]968164[/ATTACH] So, I searched out the [URL='https://www.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/collection_object_details.aspx?objectId=1308283&partId=1&searchText=Paula+1533&page=1']example in the British Museum[/URL] at their website. This is the coin: [ATTACH=full]968165[/ATTACH] It's very different from mine in style. The obverse inscription is rendered with large, crowded letters. Julia Paula's hairstyle is very different and resembles that of many of her imperial denarii. The eagle takes up most of the surface area of the reverse and is facing with head turned right. There is no palm behind the eagle's head. That's not necessarily a red flag, as you know, because my coin may simply be a variety cut by a different die-engraver. But the obverse portrait and the reverse of the "Julia Paula" resemble the features of a year 15 tetradrachm of Salonina I have in my collection too closely for comfort: [ATTACH=full]968170[/ATTACH] Here's my new purchase again, the ex FSR, ex Pegasi one: [ATTACH=full]968162[/ATTACH] Tooled from a Salonina tetradrachm? This coin does not appear when I [URL='https://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/search.php']search Forum's fake coin reports[/URL]. I'm hampered by my ability to compare the coin to others. Apart from the British Museum example, I am unable to find any other specimens online -- real or fake. I need help from Alexandrian experts. Thanks![/QUOTE]
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