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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2711780, member: 24314"]Volodya asks:"Where are the equally obvious denarii or aurei?"</p><p><br /></p><p>I can answer this very easily:</p><p><br /></p><p>1. Up until more modern times (<span style="color: #5900b3">Possibly beginning in the 1970's as that is when I first started examining ancient coins with a Nikon SMZ-2 stereo microscope with a range of 4X to 80X using different accessories and we (me and the other mice) were detecting alterations to genuine gold and silver ancients.</span>) I'll bet the majority of these alterations to gold and silver coins went undetected. Ancient dealers rarely used magnification. They didn't need it to detect carved up, pitted, and smoothed-out copper because it's a naked eye thing!</p><p><br /></p><p>2. Gold is unaffected by the elements. It is not found corroded so only the design details would be altered by tooling. I have seen scratches removed from the fields of aurei and Byzantine solidi decades ago. Also rim and edge repairs from removal from jewelry.</p><p><br /></p><p>Silver does corrode so more of these coins were tooled than gold. All I said about repairs and tooling to gold apply to silver ancients as well. Again, all seen decades ago and still seen today.</p><p><br /></p><p>We all know what happens to alloys of copper. These coins have been improved, tooled, repaired, reengraved, and er "smoothed" for centuries. Everyone knows that and everyone is looking for it on these coins. It's as common as they are! That's why someone in the business may be of the opinion that gold and silver ancients are never or at least rarely altered! That is not true. But I don't have photos so...fogetabouit. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie104" alt=":yawn:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>PS, As I posted months ago, the newcomers to this hobby and even long time professional dealers and auction houses <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie47" alt=":greedy:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> adopted the word "smoothed" to make the method of altering a coin's surface by tooling (using a tool to change the coin's surface or design) more acceptable. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie96" alt=":vomit:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie46" alt=":facepalm:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> It's the same thing as TPGS's calling buffed or polished coins "cleaned." The <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie30" alt=":bucktooth:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />"suckers" who buy the coins swallowed it. I cannot think of a less offensive/abrasive way to pass my opinion <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie26" alt=":bookworm:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> on.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie87" alt=":sorry:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2711780, member: 24314"]Volodya asks:"Where are the equally obvious denarii or aurei?" I can answer this very easily: 1. Up until more modern times ([COLOR=#5900b3]Possibly beginning in the 1970's as that is when I first started examining ancient coins with a Nikon SMZ-2 stereo microscope with a range of 4X to 80X using different accessories and we (me and the other mice) were detecting alterations to genuine gold and silver ancients.[/COLOR]) I'll bet the majority of these alterations to gold and silver coins went undetected. Ancient dealers rarely used magnification. They didn't need it to detect carved up, pitted, and smoothed-out copper because it's a naked eye thing! 2. Gold is unaffected by the elements. It is not found corroded so only the design details would be altered by tooling. I have seen scratches removed from the fields of aurei and Byzantine solidi decades ago. Also rim and edge repairs from removal from jewelry. Silver does corrode so more of these coins were tooled than gold. All I said about repairs and tooling to gold apply to silver ancients as well. Again, all seen decades ago and still seen today. We all know what happens to alloys of copper. These coins have been improved, tooled, repaired, reengraved, and er "smoothed" for centuries. Everyone knows that and everyone is looking for it on these coins. It's as common as they are! That's why someone in the business may be of the opinion that gold and silver ancients are never or at least rarely altered! That is not true. But I don't have photos so...fogetabouit. :yawn: PS, As I posted months ago, the newcomers to this hobby and even long time professional dealers and auction houses :greedy: adopted the word "smoothed" to make the method of altering a coin's surface by tooling (using a tool to change the coin's surface or design) more acceptable. :vomit::facepalm: It's the same thing as TPGS's calling buffed or polished coins "cleaned." The :bucktooth:"suckers" who buy the coins swallowed it. I cannot think of a less offensive/abrasive way to pass my opinion :bookworm: on.:sorry:[/QUOTE]
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