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<p>[QUOTE="IdesOfMarch01, post: 2711416, member: 39084"]If there are books that illustrate tooling, it would be helpful to know what those books are.</p><p><br /></p><p>The advantage of illustrating tooled coins on this site (there are three examples here so far) is that everyone can see the tooling for themselves. Referencing a book that may be difficult or impossible to obtain currently, or for which there aren't any online illustrations, doesn't really further anyone's understanding of what tooling looks like.</p><p><br /></p><p>The best illustration so far in this thread has been the comparison between the OP tooled Vespasian denarius, where the hair is tooled, and a similar untooled denarius that clearly illustrates Vespasian's forehead is bald and never had hair:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]612419[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]612420[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>In fact, even after the second coin was posted, PMONNEY still asked specifically where the tooled area was:</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I certainly agree with Gavin's sentiment "<span style="color: #0000ff">"Trust me, I know what I'm talking about" is much less convincing to me than a photograph or a textual reference..."</span> and that's pretty much the value of this site in helping others: illustrate, don't just assert.</p><p><br /></p><p>Personally, I'd love to see 30+ year old examples of aurei and denarii that were tooled <i>back then</i> since I haven't run across any, either in the printed catalogs I possess nor in auctions posted online. Pictures of tooled bronzes are plentiful; pictures of tooled aurei and denarii, not so plentiful.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="IdesOfMarch01, post: 2711416, member: 39084"]If there are books that illustrate tooling, it would be helpful to know what those books are. The advantage of illustrating tooled coins on this site (there are three examples here so far) is that everyone can see the tooling for themselves. Referencing a book that may be difficult or impossible to obtain currently, or for which there aren't any online illustrations, doesn't really further anyone's understanding of what tooling looks like. The best illustration so far in this thread has been the comparison between the OP tooled Vespasian denarius, where the hair is tooled, and a similar untooled denarius that clearly illustrates Vespasian's forehead is bald and never had hair: [ATTACH=full]612419[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]612420[/ATTACH] In fact, even after the second coin was posted, PMONNEY still asked specifically where the tooled area was: I certainly agree with Gavin's sentiment "[COLOR=#0000ff]"Trust me, I know what I'm talking about" is much less convincing to me than a photograph or a textual reference..."[/COLOR] and that's pretty much the value of this site in helping others: illustrate, don't just assert. Personally, I'd love to see 30+ year old examples of aurei and denarii that were tooled [I]back then[/I] since I haven't run across any, either in the printed catalogs I possess nor in auctions posted online. Pictures of tooled bronzes are plentiful; pictures of tooled aurei and denarii, not so plentiful.[/QUOTE]
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