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<p>[QUOTE="physics-fan3.14, post: 26479505, member: 19165"]The high point wear is distinguished by the slight color change. A weak strike would have continuous and uninterrupted luster across the high points. Even in these static images, I can see that is not the case. </p><p><br /></p><p>And I'll agree, it appears to have very strong luster. I don't think anyone would argue that. I'm saying the color/patina isn't right because it has been stripped. Stripping the patina doesn't *necessarily* affect the luster if it hasn't been too much. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Nope, that's not how coins are graded. If there is no obvious wear but the coin has been cleaned, it might drop a point in the MS scale, but it will still be an UNC coin. The only thing that will take it from UNC to AU is wear. </p><p><br /></p><p>Now, if it is graded MS-61 with obvious cleaning compared to an AU-58 with gorgeous original patina, the AU-58 coin might be worth more.... but the MS-61 coin will still be UNC. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I'm super confused by your post. </p><p><br /></p><p>Dipping is cleaning. You admit it has been dipped. </p><p><br /></p><p>It hasn't been *harshly cleaned* like with a wire brush or baking soda. But it has 100% clearly and obviously been cleaned. </p><p><br /></p><p>This goes back to the debate of what is considered "market acceptable" cleaning... the market has determined that dipping like this is acceptable. Hence PCGS graded it, and people are buying it. But make absolutely no mistake, this coin has been cleaned in a way that I would not be a buyer.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="physics-fan3.14, post: 26479505, member: 19165"]The high point wear is distinguished by the slight color change. A weak strike would have continuous and uninterrupted luster across the high points. Even in these static images, I can see that is not the case. And I'll agree, it appears to have very strong luster. I don't think anyone would argue that. I'm saying the color/patina isn't right because it has been stripped. Stripping the patina doesn't *necessarily* affect the luster if it hasn't been too much. Nope, that's not how coins are graded. If there is no obvious wear but the coin has been cleaned, it might drop a point in the MS scale, but it will still be an UNC coin. The only thing that will take it from UNC to AU is wear. Now, if it is graded MS-61 with obvious cleaning compared to an AU-58 with gorgeous original patina, the AU-58 coin might be worth more.... but the MS-61 coin will still be UNC. I'm super confused by your post. Dipping is cleaning. You admit it has been dipped. It hasn't been *harshly cleaned* like with a wire brush or baking soda. But it has 100% clearly and obviously been cleaned. This goes back to the debate of what is considered "market acceptable" cleaning... the market has determined that dipping like this is acceptable. Hence PCGS graded it, and people are buying it. But make absolutely no mistake, this coin has been cleaned in a way that I would not be a buyer.[/QUOTE]
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