too bad about NYINC 2021

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by rrdenarius, Sep 25, 2020.

  1. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

    As you read the above, filter out posts from people who did not understand that they were posting in the Ancients section and tell you how to deal in bullion/US. Ancients are different.

    My experience at shows is that people go to buy coins and have little time to see things not for sale. Displays are rarely crowded. I once gave a program at a large show that drew only about ten people but was told that the talk on US nickels the hour before mine only drew four.

    Take coins you want to sell but any transaction at a show MUST include one party who is a dealer paying for a table at the show. It is very inappropriate to buy/sell coins inside a show with other visitors and you should not encourage sleazy characters who might say, "Psst, buddy, Do I have a coin for you!!!" Years ago I passed up a coin I really wanted from such a source. It was the right thing to do. Coin shows are a business. Support the people who make them possible.

    Coin shows are my favorite way of getting coins. I am on track to buy less than half as many coins in 2020 as I usually add in a year. Most people here live for auctions from Europe which I won't touch. It is a hobby. Find the way that fits you. I do not expect shows to reopen widely before next summer. Time will tell.
    The 'Coin Show' pages were my favorites of all my 100+ pages on ancient coins. I was a hard core coin show addict. I never broke for lunch (food at shows is expensive and terrible) and probably came off as unfriendly to people who were there for socializing. When at a show, I wanted to see/handle/buy as many coins as time and budget would allow. I went into social mode if and when the money was gone. Recent developments including the death/retirement of some favorite dealers may mean I will never again enjoy shows. The 2020 method of buying coins involves a computer rather than crowds of people from around the world jammed into tight spaces breathing on each other. What I will miss the most are the small dealers who have on consignment collections of grandpa's coins that last sold decades ago. Sometimes you would find a group that was assembled by someone you wish you had known.
     
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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning. Supporter

    It's a bummer. I'm back in the States and was looking forward to being able to attend a few shows without spending the whole budget on travel and lodging. This NYINC would have been my first-- not only my first NYINC but my first time in NYC.

    Hopefully NYINC 2022 will be a go.
     
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  4. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio Supporter

    We have a coin show in Houston Oct 16 - 17 with 30 - 40 dealers. The show will require social distancing. Ancient coin sellers: Nick may be there. Bill will not. Other smaller sellers may be there.
    Houston's Fall Coin Show
    West Oaks Fellowship Event Center
    14440 Richmond Ave.
    Houston, TX 77082
    October 16 Friday (11am-6pm)
    October 17 (Saturday 9am-5pm)​
     
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  5. DonnaML

    DonnaML Supporter! Supporter

    One of the main reasons I was looking forward to the NYINC this coming January was that I thought it would be my first opportunity to meet some of my fellow Coin Talk ancient collectors. I sort of envisioned that we could all get together at some point. When I went to the 2020 NYINC eight months ago (it seems like it's been a great deal longer!), it was before I joined CT. In fact, I found this forum in the first place by searching on the Internet for comments about the show, and that's why I joined a couple of weeks later, at the end of January.
     
  6. Terence Cheesman

    Terence Cheesman Well-Known Member

    This news saddens me a lot. I had planned to go come hell or high water but that option is now closed. I too enjoy the NYINC. I have been to it four times already and I must admit I have seen so many wonderful coins there. Some of these I actually managed to purchase. I remember saying after my first visit to the show "If I had a half a million dollars I could have bought 2 coins." It was such an experience just being able to get close and really be able to examine some very rare and beautiful coins. The auctions were great as well. It seems that before going I would make all these elaborate plans for purchasing coins, only to have those plans dashed and running downstairs to the view room trying to see, if a coin that I sort of liked was actually worth purchasing. One of my purchases from the last NYINC. Syracuse Ar Tetradrachm 466-460 B.C. Obv. Slow quadriga right. Rv. Head of Arethusa right surrounded by dolphins Boh 438 17.40 grms 26 mm CNG Triton XXIII Lot 117 Photo by W. Hansen syracusetd17.jpg Actually I did not plan to buy this coin. I actually was interested in one of the other Syracuse tetradrachms offered in this sale. However when I saw it I knew I just had to have it.
     
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  7. Ed Snible

    Ed Snible Well-Known Member

    I learned NYINC was cancelled from Nick @ Pegasi at the Westchester coin show last Friday.

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    This show happens three times a year in White Plains, New York. Perhaps 20 dealers were present. A much bigger conference room than usual was chosen so the tables could be spaced. Everyone I saw was wearing masks, and correctly.

    Two dealers had ancients. Pegasi -- but only with the unsolds from the most recent online auction -- and Arnold Saslow.

    Maybe we should ask the NYINC organizers to let the educational program continue, via Zoom, this year? The Brooklyn Antiquarian Book Fair recently had their show and it was just a web site and YouTube channel this year.
     
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  8. Fugio1

    Fugio1 Supporter! Supporter

    Were it not for the pandemic, I would be attending the 2021 NYINC for the second time. Last year was my first visit and hopefully not my last. I saw no bargains at the 2020 show but I'm not a bargain hunter, and I came away with some expensive coins (to me) but no regrets. If a coin seems like a bargain, I am now in the habit of asking myself if I want it because it's a bargain or do I want it because I want it. One coin at the 2020 NYINC show cost me more than I've ever paid for any single coin, but it's a treasure that I would not have vied for online. Some coins must be seen in-hand to appreciate their true character, and that is one reason I've always loved coin shows.
     
  9. DonnaML

    DonnaML Supporter! Supporter

    I had no idea that Arnold Saslow is still around. I bought some Egyptian antiquities from him at a coin show in the early 1980s -- I wish I could remember which one; it was at a hotel on 6th Avenue in the 50s -- and he didn't seem at all young to me even then! (Of course, I wasn't even 30 yet, so my perspective may have been somewhat skewed.)
     
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  10. Carausius

    Carausius Brother, can you spare a sestertius?

    Is Nick winding-down after Eldert's sudden death? I was hoping he might continue the business.
     
  11. Cicero12

    Cicero12 Supporter! Supporter

    Dr. Saslow is still operating his shop in New Jersey. I grew up not terribly far and actually worked there for a few years. Just saw him a few weeks ago, he was cataloguing a new consignment of world coins which included a few interesting pieces.
     
  12. DonnaML

    DonnaML Supporter! Supporter

    Glad to hear it. I lived in New Jersey for some years and remember his store. I bought a fossilized shark tooth for my son there when he was little. The store basically had everything!
     
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  13. TIF

    TIF Always learning. Supporter

    Welcome to CoinTalk, @Cicero12! Gorgeous avatar :)
     
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  14. Cicero12

    Cicero12 Supporter! Supporter

    Thank you!
     
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