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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Lehigh96, post: 1418221, member: 15309&quot;]I don&#039;t dispute that other than the year.&nbsp; Prices started going up in the late 90&#039;s evidenced by the Appalachian Jefferson Nickels which were slabbed in September 2000.&nbsp; When I speak of the rainbow toned coin market, I am speaking of the market that drives strong premiums to their untoned counterparts.&nbsp; And no matter whether it is 2002 or the late 90&#039;s the premiums for toned coins prior to that were very small and almost never multiples of bid.&nbsp; Yes there were toned coin collectors, but they were able to obtain the toned coins cheaply because the demand had not yet exploded.&nbsp; The explosion in demand was caused by the advancement of the internet and digital photography.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>What you are saying here makes no sense.&nbsp; If there was very little premium being paid for rainbow toned coins, there would be no market for the coin doctors to create rainbow toned coins.&nbsp; Prior to the explosion of the rainbow toned coin market, AT was used almost exclusively to hide defects and rainbow toning was not used.&nbsp; It was only after the explosion of the rainbow toned coin market that coin doctors started creating AT coins with the intent of reproducing eye appealing rainbow toning that would drive many multiples of bid.&nbsp; So to say that doctors have had expertise in doing something for 30 years about something that has only existed for 10-15 years is ludicrous.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Well I am glad we are done talking about bubbles that had nothing to do with coins and are apples to oranges when compared to what happened with the rainbow toned coin market.&nbsp; Mostly because what happened to the rainbow toned coin market is not a bubble.&nbsp; The increase in demand was not temporary and what caused the increase in demand can&#039;t be taken away.&nbsp; The technological advancements that caused the explosion of the rainbow toned coin market created a permanent change in the supply-demand for the market and the market has been stable since those changes occurred. </p><p><br /></p><p>Doug, you might not like arguing with me but quite honestly, you exacerbate most of the dispute by constantly making sweeping statements without ever providing any proof.&nbsp; You simply want the readers of this forum to believe you based on your age and experience.&nbsp; That just isn&#039;t good enough for me.&nbsp; If you are going to challenge my claim that creating rainbow AT coins that can fool the TPG&#039;s is extremely difficult, then you need to back up that claim.&nbsp; If you claim that you are capable of doing it yourself, then prove it!&nbsp; I am currently a professional poker player.&nbsp; I think you are bluffing!&nbsp; The ball is in your court.&nbsp; Either show the winning hand and prove your claim that you can AT coins and get them slabbed or muck your hand and admit that you can&#039;t.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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