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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;EyeEatWheaties, post: 1075874, member: 26972&quot;]BahaBully,&nbsp;&nbsp; Illini420&#039;s numbers are accurate.&nbsp; I will leave it at that.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>I think that high grade top <b>LOW</b> pop BN&#039;s and RB&#039;s can not have market values established since not only are they rare, it is likely that they are going to have a ton of eye appeal, so demand is going to be fluky.</p><p><br /></p><p>For example. there are a couple of members on here who some very colorful copper cent collections that I am certain that they would not sell for the Price Guide values - if they are even for sale at all.&nbsp; That makes them priceless!</p><p><br /></p><p>I think that the same way Woodies are overlooked and undervalued so would any high grade RB or BN.&nbsp; Everyone wants RED.&nbsp; The Market (demand) is smaller for woodies, high grade RB and BN coins so therefore, no demand, no premium. </p><p><br /></p><p>Now with that said, if there are only 3 coins like illini420&#039;s 1909vdb 67RB - it only takes 2 people in a bidding war to knock the PCGS price guide of $500 outa the park. What is that they call it?&nbsp; Moon Money?&nbsp; Here again, I think, it actaully depends on how that coin actually looks in hand. and if there are only a couple of examples how do you get one in hand..&nbsp; duh?&nbsp; right... I know, I know.</p><p><br /></p><p>Furthermore and moving on. Given all the above....&nbsp; Is it even possible to get a 67RD to go BN?&nbsp; I think not naturally and if you crack it out, all bets are off.&nbsp;&nbsp; So to back up what Mike is saying,&nbsp; I&#039;ll post (2) MS65BN coins and a 3rd coin for speculation.</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: red"><b>CLICK ON THE PICS TWICE FOR HIGHEST RESOLUTION about 30 times actual size! </b></span></p><p><br /></p><p><b>First up is a NGC MS65BN.&nbsp; this coin has superior luster to the second coin however and is much much more colorful than these pics depict.&nbsp; When Imaging I tried to get a balance of both attributes.</b></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z242/papasteeze/Coins/1909VDBMS65BNObverseNGC3386801-008.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z242/papasteeze/Coins/1909VDBMS65BNReverseNGC3386801-008.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><b>This second coin epitomizes what Illini420 is saying. This is a PCGS MS65BN.&nbsp; Imagine if this coin was RB or RD. at first glance, to me, it looks to have 66 and 67 details IMO&nbsp;&nbsp; correct me where I am wrong.</b></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z242/papasteeze/Coins/1909VDBMS65BNObverse14581209.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z242/papasteeze/Coins/2010_11_05_95.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><b>Ok now..&nbsp;&nbsp; for kicks and giggles and as sort of a test.&nbsp;&nbsp; Where do you think this coin is currently graded or what do you think it is worth, either CDN or Price Guide, what should be its market value based on the pics.&nbsp; Give me a couple of scenarios, because I am likely to ask the value question again under a different premise.</b></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z242/papasteeze/Coins/1909VDBObverseNEWP.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z242/papasteeze/Coins/1909VDBReverseNEWP.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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