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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;desertgem, post: 942213, member: 15199&quot;]We should remember that collectors are still bombarded with chemicals that are suppose to be safe, intended just to improve your coins, and not intended to be used fraudently, so some probably think when they ask about toning, that we all use such already. Most&nbsp; newbies and many oldies on the board doesn&#039;t understand the &quot;intent&quot; area of artificial toning. I personally think that there is some &quot;black&quot; humor in the idea that if one uses a certain envelope without intent to tone, a resultant toned coin is natural. If one uses it with the intent to tone it, it is artificial! I realize this occurs in other areas of life. If you kill someone without intent, you are sentenced differently than if you intended to kill that person. But it matters little to the person dead. Look at this webpage ad for Deller&#039;s Darkener. If you were a new collector and saw this ad, what would you think?</p><p><a href="http://www.brent-krueger.com/dellers.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.brent-krueger.com/dellers.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.brent-krueger.com/dellers.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Jim[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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