Toning Silver Video

We can't have a conversation if you run off, refrain from posting some images of your coins or discuss why you differ on what you are doing is AT and related to coin doctoring. Please don't dismiss us based on your own words, it's all we have to go by and they read in such a way as to be questioned. So long I guess...

 

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All the money in the world and a set of PR70 Morgans can't buy you intelligence.

Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya.

 

If the 4 coins are worth over $10,000 why would you ever want to tamper with it?!

 

The desperation being shown by the owner of these coins leads me to believe that he paid $10K for them but since they are cleaned, they are not nearly worth as much. That would explain why this newbie is going to great lengths to doctor his coins in order to recoup his losses.

 

A minor point, but even a single cleaned coin can be worth $10,000. I don't doubt that a large number of VG and higher grade 1793 Sheldon-1 (AMERI.) Chain cents have been cleaned at one point. That hasn't stopped people form spending 5 figures to get one.

If mystry13 spent $10,000 on his 4 coins and then found they had been cleaned—assuming that he was not told by the seller that they had been cleaned and the seller is an ANA member, he has recourse to get his money back.
mystry13: what was the source of the coins? Did you have any return privileges? Have you cracked the coins out of their slabs?
and obviously, any attempt to alter the surface(s) of these coins would negate any legal right to seek redress.

 

We should remember that collectors are still bombarded with chemicals that are suppose to be safe, intended just to improve your coins, and not intended to be used fraudently, so some probably think when they ask about toning, that we all use such already. Most newbies and many oldies on the board doesn't understand the "intent" area of artificial toning. I personally think that there is some "black" humor in the idea that if one uses a certain envelope without intent to tone, a resultant toned coin is natural. If one uses it with the intent to tone it, it is artificial! I realize this occurs in other areas of life. If you kill someone without intent, you are sentenced differently than if you intended to kill that person. But it matters little to the person dead. Look at this webpage ad for Deller's Darkener. If you were a new collector and saw this ad, what would you think?
http://www.brent-krueger.com/dellers.html

Jim

 

if you want something really exciting try using something other and sulfur.

Ruben