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<p>[QUOTE="Kryptonitecomic, post: 1075337, member: 26784"]Just a note about QDB quote about coins with these hues being non existant 30 years ago. I think the release of Morgans by the GSA pretty much disproves this quote and the fact that there were still bags of morgans sitting in closets and bank vaults also points to why there are more seen now than then as the battle Creek, Binion and Continental bank hoards have been released since then. Finally as has been said countless times....the internet, better imaging techniques and of course strong prices have also brought a lot of these monster toners out into the open. I have zero doubts that it has brough out coin doctors as well and that there are some out their good enough to get their creations into legit holders but I think the percentage of AT coins getting into PCGS/NGC holders is much smaller than the press would have you believe. </p><p><br /></p><p>Mark salzberg addressed this during the NGC luncheon and while he didn't specifically mention PCGS, he did alluded to the fact that part of the hype was created to sell a new product...maybe you have heard of Secure plus and the sniffer technology? It would behove PCGS to publicize and hype a problem which does exist but maybe not to the degree that they are making out to be as there are profit motives.</p><p><br /></p><p>Whether you want the market to be alive and strong or not...there is no denying that it is and I saw countless sales at FUN that prove just that...as a matter of fact Ron Sirna sold 4 of his best rainbow Morgans to Brandon kelly (JohnEcash coins) and while I don't know the exact price paid i will tell you it was probably in excess of $40k and I may be low....and that's for 4 common date toned Morgans?</p><p><br /></p><p>I think the best advice which I have posted over and over is...do not invest in coins, buy what you like and what you can afford to buy and enjoy. If you want to invest in coins then I certainly wouldn't suggest common date Morgans toned or untoned....you might want to go after key dates in popular series. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Kryptonitecomic, post: 1075337, member: 26784"]Just a note about QDB quote about coins with these hues being non existant 30 years ago. I think the release of Morgans by the GSA pretty much disproves this quote and the fact that there were still bags of morgans sitting in closets and bank vaults also points to why there are more seen now than then as the battle Creek, Binion and Continental bank hoards have been released since then. Finally as has been said countless times....the internet, better imaging techniques and of course strong prices have also brought a lot of these monster toners out into the open. I have zero doubts that it has brough out coin doctors as well and that there are some out their good enough to get their creations into legit holders but I think the percentage of AT coins getting into PCGS/NGC holders is much smaller than the press would have you believe. Mark salzberg addressed this during the NGC luncheon and while he didn't specifically mention PCGS, he did alluded to the fact that part of the hype was created to sell a new product...maybe you have heard of Secure plus and the sniffer technology? It would behove PCGS to publicize and hype a problem which does exist but maybe not to the degree that they are making out to be as there are profit motives. Whether you want the market to be alive and strong or not...there is no denying that it is and I saw countless sales at FUN that prove just that...as a matter of fact Ron Sirna sold 4 of his best rainbow Morgans to Brandon kelly (JohnEcash coins) and while I don't know the exact price paid i will tell you it was probably in excess of $40k and I may be low....and that's for 4 common date toned Morgans? I think the best advice which I have posted over and over is...do not invest in coins, buy what you like and what you can afford to buy and enjoy. If you want to invest in coins then I certainly wouldn't suggest common date Morgans toned or untoned....you might want to go after key dates in popular series. :)[/QUOTE]
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