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<p>[QUOTE="Kryptonitecomic, post: 1073531, member: 26784"]I don't buy coins at the heritage auctions as I don't believe there are many good buys when it comes to toners....I bought all 80 by walking the floor and grabbing coins from dealer cases....I think the most I bought from one dealer was 5 and then there were plenty of 2 coins here or 3 coins there. I bought from small time dealers and big time dealers and I bought from the cheap seats to ground zero if you will. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>I actually agree with a lot of the last posts including much of what Doug mentions and the thoughts about there not being established market values for toners but I have to disagree with assertions that the toned coin market really started around 2002. I guarantee there are plenty of dealer and collectors that could go back at least 20 years plus and as I have said many time over...Mike defalco specialized in toned coins for 35 years...not just since 2002. Sure the GSA sold the toned examples at a discount and rightly so becuase much more of the public collected blast white than toned and that has not changed in the last 30 years nor do I think it will change in the next 30. The fact that it may not have been mainstream then or not does not eliminate the fact that the market did exist. It existed then as it does now within the hearts and minds of a certain population of collectors who cherrish eye appeal above all else and it will never be a collecting strategy for the majority but there are still a lot of collectors out there and have been for decades. I can tell you that the internet has fueled a big boom in toned coins....all coins for that matter as it exposed a lot of collectors to coins they may not have know existed because they weren't mainstream.</p><p><br /></p><p>My final note is that I dabbled in coins back in 1998 when I began selling comic books and cards on Ebay and I absolutely saw crazy toned coins listed for strong premiums....what I don't remember seeing was the tens of thousands of raw AT coins filling the ebaycoin pages. That is a more recent phenomenon and could have started in 2002?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Kryptonitecomic, post: 1073531, member: 26784"]I don't buy coins at the heritage auctions as I don't believe there are many good buys when it comes to toners....I bought all 80 by walking the floor and grabbing coins from dealer cases....I think the most I bought from one dealer was 5 and then there were plenty of 2 coins here or 3 coins there. I bought from small time dealers and big time dealers and I bought from the cheap seats to ground zero if you will. :) I actually agree with a lot of the last posts including much of what Doug mentions and the thoughts about there not being established market values for toners but I have to disagree with assertions that the toned coin market really started around 2002. I guarantee there are plenty of dealer and collectors that could go back at least 20 years plus and as I have said many time over...Mike defalco specialized in toned coins for 35 years...not just since 2002. Sure the GSA sold the toned examples at a discount and rightly so becuase much more of the public collected blast white than toned and that has not changed in the last 30 years nor do I think it will change in the next 30. The fact that it may not have been mainstream then or not does not eliminate the fact that the market did exist. It existed then as it does now within the hearts and minds of a certain population of collectors who cherrish eye appeal above all else and it will never be a collecting strategy for the majority but there are still a lot of collectors out there and have been for decades. I can tell you that the internet has fueled a big boom in toned coins....all coins for that matter as it exposed a lot of collectors to coins they may not have know existed because they weren't mainstream. My final note is that I dabbled in coins back in 1998 when I began selling comic books and cards on Ebay and I absolutely saw crazy toned coins listed for strong premiums....what I don't remember seeing was the tens of thousands of raw AT coins filling the ebaycoin pages. That is a more recent phenomenon and could have started in 2002?[/QUOTE]
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