Toning Coins

ok, seriously, dont AT it. its a waste, it wont look right and if anything the numismatic price will drop, don't do it.

 

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But you will not know if it is AT. How do NT coins tone?

 

I agree like I tried to tell him let nature take its course , and most AT turns out black splothchy & ugly . I should of put in 9 x out of ten you'll wreck the coin .
rzage:smile

 

ok, I'm not trying to be rude, but That is not a good way to look at it. If you know it's AT then you should tell whoever is buying it. Just because you can't tell doesn't mean you shouldn't tell them...

try here...
once again, not trying to be rude. But it is frowned upon in the coin community to artificially tone a coin, so won't get answers here...

 

Belive me the pros won't be fooled , they'll just body bag your coins , let nature do it , if you want toned coins buy them that way .
rzage:smile:hail:

 

The simple answer is that if you have to ask you are not skilled enough to do it. I am fairly uncomfortable with your continued overt interest in a topic you've clearly been warned is not kosher. Very little will raise the ire of the majority of collectors faster than openly admitting that you doctor coins.

Sulfur fumes can be toxic, yes. Plus they are seriously nasty smelling, you will not please whoever lives with you if you do something that gives off sulfur fumes.

 

With all due respect, yes I would, as would most seasoned numismatists.

Toned Morgans spent 60-80 years in cloth bags in the Treasury Dept., 19th century proofs spent 100+ years in tissue paper. Either of those methods would be acceptable, but you probably won't live long enough to reap the rewards. Additionally neither method is foolproof and both can make the coins very ugly if temperature and humidity aren't just right.

Seriously, you got what you deserved when your coin turned black. Stop destroying coins!

 

this is getting serious maybe he needs a doctor and not a lawyer

 

ridiculous my dear GD ridiculous rediculous is what i am trying to get to along with blueculous and greenculous but you wont take me there. These morgans wouldnt be doctored they are already polished so anyone would know its AT but dont worry one of the guys who is smoking his house with sulphur will surely fix it for me

 

Punctuation, my dear Spock. Punctuation.

 

How the heck can you tell if you tone a coin the way it is naturally toned?

Lets say you have an album of quarters, and half a year later you realize that they all have toned. You empty out the album, and you put new coins in, and they also tone. You will not be able to tell which set was toned by accident.

That is impossible. Believe it.

 

There have been many many topics on this.
Why artificially tone a coin? don't you want the satisfaction of owning a coin that is beautiful because of the natural toning that has progressed through the years?
If a coin gets tab toning, it would be considered natural..
but if you put it in a tab album for the distinct reason of getting it toned it would be artificial.
someone could buy it and have no idea they are buying an AT coin, BUT YOU WOULD KNOW.
and thats where the problem lies...

 

You are describing natural album toning, not artificial toning.
NOW, take a quarter album, gas it with sulfer or heat it and bake, there would be a differance betwen the AT and the NT, and it would be noticed by most pro numismatists

 

so let me get philosophical i hope we realize that coins themselves are artificially created and not products of nature. i believe a day will come in the distant future when people will laugh at money and coins

 

Ok, I made an interesting discovery...hopefully I wont get flamed for this.
disclaimer (only used Lincoln cents that are worth face value to 3 or 4 cents....so no damage was done to anything of significant value).

I've noticed some Lincolns(both copper and zinc) begin getting a rather bright red color at a certain point, with mild rainbow irridecence. If you find one with a certain look, you can greatly increase the irridecence of the coin simply by the spit and polishing the coin with a rag. The rainbow looks more full and the colors become MUCH more intense, as well as new colors become evident. I tried this once with a copper penny, and thought it was a fluke. However, since then, I have been able to reproduce this using the same method on about 10 different cents, both copper and zinc! Can anyone explain this phenomenon!

As far as ethics go, I do believe it is important to say whether the coin was AT or NT before selling(I would also have to give mine a "cleaned" designation). The 10 that I "doctored" are barely worth face value with no problems, and I have no intentions to sell them. One of them actually made it into my typeset because I liked the look so much.

 

Yeah, how do you do that second kind?

OK, OK, . But what gets me is the ones who have it done "professionally" (if you could call it that) and then put it on eBay but forget to tell anybody about it. You should let people know, especially potential buyers, what you did or had done to the coin, and money shouldn't get in the way of that ethic, there rather should be a bright line, there. JMHO...

 

I rather thought it was a pretty good one. LOL !!!

 

Let me bring us back to Earth, spock. There are secrets of the trade, and there's big money in trade secrets. No wonder some people get uneasy discussing subjects like toning and cleaning. Want some advice? Don't rock the boat. Just appreciate that, and laugh it off. Don't want to see a nice alien like you get hurt, now, do we?