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<p>[QUOTE="-jeffB, post: 2004049, member: 27832"]This doesn't sound right to me.</p><p><br /></p><p>IF the AT is produced by adding a colored foreign material to the coin, and that material is acetone-soluble, or bound to the coin by something that's acetone-soluble, then, yeah, acetone will take it off.</p><p><br /></p><p>But natural toning, and many forms of artificial toning, consists of a surface layer of sulfide or oxide on the coin. These surface layers are very, very thin, and the color comes from interference effects as light passes through the layer. They're also <i>chemically bound</i> to the surface, and they're <i>not</i> acetone soluble. Acid dips will remove them, by reversing the chemical oxidation that first formed them, and/or removing both the layer and the metal beneath.</p><p><br /></p><p>So, to your original points:</p><p><br /></p><p><i>Some</i> forms of AT can be removed by acetone -- dyes, enameled layers, and so on.</p><p><br /></p><p><i>Many</i> forms of AT <i>can't</i> be removed by acetone -- those done by baking, sulfides, and so on.</p><p><br /></p><p>Natural toning, as well as many forms of AT, consists of a "substance on top of the coin" -- a sub-microscopic layer of sulfide or oxide. This layer won't come off with acetone; it will come off with dip (acid/reducing agent), or by physically scouring it off. And if the chemical reaction goes far enough to <i>penetrate into</i> the coin, it's corrosion, not toning, and ruins the coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>Greg, you've dealt with toners a lot more than I have. Does this make sense, or am I confusing myself here? I had thought most AT was done by heat or by chemicals that mimic the natural process; do you find that most AT coins lose their color in acetone?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="-jeffB, post: 2004049, member: 27832"]This doesn't sound right to me. IF the AT is produced by adding a colored foreign material to the coin, and that material is acetone-soluble, or bound to the coin by something that's acetone-soluble, then, yeah, acetone will take it off. But natural toning, and many forms of artificial toning, consists of a surface layer of sulfide or oxide on the coin. These surface layers are very, very thin, and the color comes from interference effects as light passes through the layer. They're also [I]chemically bound[/I] to the surface, and they're [I]not[/I] acetone soluble. Acid dips will remove them, by reversing the chemical oxidation that first formed them, and/or removing both the layer and the metal beneath. So, to your original points: [I]Some[/I] forms of AT can be removed by acetone -- dyes, enameled layers, and so on. [I]Many[/I] forms of AT [I]can't[/I] be removed by acetone -- those done by baking, sulfides, and so on. Natural toning, as well as many forms of AT, consists of a "substance on top of the coin" -- a sub-microscopic layer of sulfide or oxide. This layer won't come off with acetone; it will come off with dip (acid/reducing agent), or by physically scouring it off. And if the chemical reaction goes far enough to [I]penetrate into[/I] the coin, it's corrosion, not toning, and ruins the coin. Greg, you've dealt with toners a lot more than I have. Does this make sense, or am I confusing myself here? I had thought most AT was done by heat or by chemicals that mimic the natural process; do you find that most AT coins lose their color in acetone?[/QUOTE]
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